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tvik



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: getting a work visa Reply with quote

Is it possible to turn up in mexico, find a job and then get a visa.
i'm canadian, three years experience, two in a university and just finished a cambridge in house ICELT course.

do i have to go back to canada first?

whats the procedure?
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: getting a work visa Reply with quote

tvik wrote:
Is it possible to turn up in Mexico, find a job and then get a visa?


It's not only possible, but it's the standard procedure. No, you don't have to return to Canada (unless the 180 days of your tourist visa (FMT) expire, and even then it doesn't matter where you go as long as you leave Mexico and come back).

There's a lot of information in this thread that can answer your question. Do a search for "FM3". Note, however, that an FM3 isn't a work visa per se�this is sometimes a point of confusion. It's a residence visa, and there will be an annotation inside the visa booklet as to your specific conditions of residence; working for employer XXX, working independently, not working (supported by pension), not working (supported by spouse), etc.

If your economic status changes, e.g. changing employers, you apply to have the annotation in your FM3 visa booklet changed.


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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, (quick edit) someone beat me to the answer but I will leave it here as another POV. Very Happy


Regarding all the documentation, I'll leave that to others with more knowledge, but the basic answer to your question is YES.

The immigration form you will fill out (in?) on the 'plane (FMT) will serve as your tourist visa, allowing you to stay without working for 180 days.

If you find work within that time, either your employer, or more likely yiou will have to go to an immigration office to apply for an FM3, which needs to be renewed, (and paid for) every year, for at least 5 years.

There is a lot of information of this forum about visas, but if you want guidance along the way, any one of us will be willing to answer you questions.

If you don't find work within 180 days, you better think about leaving the country and coming back again with another FMT.
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corporatehuman



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One quick question I couldn't find. Do you have to translate your academic documents to Spanish??
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MO39



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

corporatehuman wrote:
One quick question I couldn't find. Do you have to translate your academic documents to Spanish??


I live in the D.F. and am using a lawyer to get my FM3. When I asked him about having my diplomas and TEFL certificate translated into Spanish, he told me it wouldn't be necessary. I don't know if this is true in all cases and for every Migraci�n office in Mexico, but that's what happened in my case.
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jillford64



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Morelia, I was required to have my TESL certificate translated, so this is probably one of those things that varies from office to office. Also, the letter from the school was in Spanish (obviously), but I had to also write my letter requesting the change from FMT to FM3 in very polite Spanish as well.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jillford64 wrote:
In Morelia, I was required to have my TESL certificate translated, so this is probably one of those things that varies from office to office. Also, the letter from the school was in Spanish (obviously), but I had to also write my letter requesting the change from FMT to FM3 in very polite Spanish as well.


I'd forgotten about the letter. In my case, it was taken care of by my lawyer and just signed by me.
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case it helps anyone:

Quote:
COMISIONADO DEL INSTITUTO [right-justified tab][fecha]
NACIONAL DE MIGRACI�N
SECRETARIA DE GOBERNACI�N
P R E S E N T E


Por medio de la presente me permito solicitar [....]

Agradeciendo de antemano las atenciones prestados a la presente, me despido de Ud.

Atentamente
[nombre y firma]


Worked for me.
Anybody got a better one? Let's share it to help the peeps in mid-tr�mite.
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding translation, yes in my case (8 years ago) I did have my academic documents translated. If you do find that they require it, the translation will be valid if done by a perito traductor; that is the term for a government-certified translator in Mexico.
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CharlieBaloney



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went through a lawyer for the FM3 and they got someone to translate the necessary docs. It was all money well spent, but I hope getting a renewal is easier and that I can do it myself without a lawyer.

Charlie
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MO39



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CharlieBaloney wrote:
I went through a lawyer for the FM3 and they got someone to translate the necessary docs. It was all money well spent, but I hope getting a renewal is easier and that I can do it myself without a lawyer.

Charlie


Charlie, that's probably what happened in my case too; the fees I paid the lawyer included any translation that was required. From what I can gather, once you have the FM3, getting the yearly renewal is not nearly as complicated as applying for it in the first place. I'm planning on doing it myself in a year.
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CharlieBaloney



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39,

I'll try to give you the benefit of my experience (I think mine expires in Oct.).

Charlie
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Charlie. I look forward to hearing how it goes for you in the fall.
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jfurgers



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:


If you find work within that time, either your employer, or more likely yiou will have to go to an immigration office to apply for an FM3, which needs to be renewed, (and paid for) every year, for at least 5 years.


I just arrived in Mexico City last Thursday (June 5) and I haven't had time to look for a job yet so this is way early to be asking but I'm curious.

After someone has renewed their FM3 for 5 years, what happens after that? Can you apply for another one or become a permanent resident?
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After 5 years of FM3 you can either apply for a new FM3 or an FM2. If you stay with FM3's, you can keep applying for new ones every 5 years as long as you want (provided you are granted the FM3 each time you apply). On the other hand, if you get an FM2, after 5 years (regardless of whether it followed an FM3 or whether you had an FM2 from the start) you can't renew it any more; you have to apply for inmigrado (permanent resident) status. Once you have inmigrado status, there are no more annual renewals or fees.

There's a good summary here: http://www.mexperience.com/liveandwork/immigration.htm.
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