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kiefer
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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BK,
If I ever need a private investigator, I'm gonna PM you. Sam Spade's got nothing on you.
Have you tried those telephone numbers?
There were some UAE government authorities mentioned by name in the Gulf News article. If someone picks up the telephone representing the "Ministry of Language Studies", drop a dime on them. (That's what you'se private eyes calls it, right? "drop a dime"?) Or contact the member of the fourth estate who wrote the article.
Anyway, thanks for posting the contents of the letter. Now the text of that too will further enhance SEO of this scam. |
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boomerang_kid
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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Location: Earth (and in transit)
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Kiefer,
Thanks. Actually, I used to work for the NSA (during the Cold War), intercepting and decoding tactical radio and civilian telephone messages of Warsaw Pact countries. (I could tell you more, but then I would unfortunately have to kill you.)
Quite amazingly, I just received an apologetic message from the folks at Hotmail abuse (! ?), which I would like to share with all of you.
..................My complaint to them:
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--- Original Message ---
From : "Boomerang Kid"
Sent : Monday, February 11, 2008 4:26:21 PM UTC
To : "[email protected]"
Subject : 5th time reported !!!
Dear MSN abuse,
This is the FIFTH time I have reported this scam to you. (See their message below.) This is a classical 419- fraud.
YOUR address "[email protected]" is being used by fraudsters, who have no right to use the logos or name of the United Arab Emirates.
If you doubt this, then you should see this NEWSPAPER INVESTIGATION of these scammers.
http://gulfnews.com/nation/Police_and_The_Courts/10187926.html
Please close these guys down as soon as possible.
(Their message is below.)
John van den Boom
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:43:31 -0000
Hello John,
Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail Technical Support. My name is Isabel and I read that you have been receiving fraudulent e-mail messages from [email protected] account. I understand the importance of having your issue resolved.
John, I sincerely apologize if you feel that no one has responded to your previous service request. I have checked our database and did not find any copy of your e-mail message to us. Please be assured that I will now address your concern.
To fully investigate the e-mail address in question, please provide us an unedited copy of the e-mail message you have received with its "Full" message headers exposed. Please paste the information to your reply to this e-mail message.
For steps on how to expose the full message headers of your received e-mail message, please ask assistance from the technical support team of your e-mail provider.
We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Isabel M.
MSN Hotmail Technical Support
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......... By God, I'm going to frame this one !
(And then I'm going to see how long it takes them to SHUT these guys DOWN.)
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boomerang_kid
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Moving right along..... |
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And here we have the next round in the fight ....
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:20:37 -0800 (PST)
From: UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION LANGUAGE STUDIES <[email protected]>
Subject: We are very sorry for the mistake.
................ [Coat of arms of United Arab Emirates]
To/John van den Boom,
From/UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION LANGUAGE STUDIES,
We are very sorry for the mistake.
Kindly E-Mail: /  info@uaeimmigrations.tk
www.uaeimmigrations.tk
Yours faithfully,
Jamal Al Mehairi
[UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION LANGUAGE STUDIES]
P.O.Box 295 Dubai United Arab Emirates
Tel/Fax:+971-4397 8355
Email:[email protected]
www.uaeministryofeducation.tk
UNDER THE CONTROL OF UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION
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So these guys went right back to those fools at the ".TK" registry and got themselves a 'NEW' website (and accompanying email address) just by adding an "s" to the name of the old one. Now they're back in business, pretending (once again) to be Immigration Officers for the UAE.
Clever; very, very clever! I wish half my students were half as determined to succeed as these scammers are.
Kiefer, you got the last .TK website shut down.
How about doing the same to this one?
Lets's see what tomorrow brings........
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boomerang_kid
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: >>>>>>>>> UPDATE |
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Good news:
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Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
<[email protected]>:
Remote host said: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
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So, we finally got this address closed.
On other fronts... their newest dot-TK website address (see my posting, immediately above) is still "up", but they don't answer any of the emails "we've" sent to it. Maybe they're laying low, just waiting for the recent Gulf News publicity (produced by Kiefer's contacting the newspaper) to die down.
I found another Gulf News article on them, which was interesting:
http://archive.gulfnews.com/nation/Employment/10189061.htm
The "dot-TK" people aren't concerned enough to close down the scammers' website "pointer", but perhaps the UAE government is exerting some political pressure on the "home country" government of these fraudsters, making it crack down on such scams. (It's been tried before.)
Only time will tell if we got these bums to "ride on".
In the meantime, here are a few interesting websites I've found, dealing with problems like this:
http://www.scamdex.com/
http://www.scam.com/
http://www.scambusters.org/
http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/693900
http://www.hotscams.com/
Until next time...
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kiefer
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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I wrote the dot TK people a month ago, No response.
The Phisher kings are a menace. They must be profiting in some measyre or they wouldn't be so resilient.
Just keep hammering away--like Bobby Kennedy going after Jimmy Hoffa  --no let up! |
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ESL-james
Joined: 27 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: The product of 2 hours at googling.... |
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boomerang_kid,
I'm the admin for TeslJobs.com. I have received dozens of emails about this scam along with a few other new scams. Ive started a thread on the message board (TeslJobs.com SCAM Thread) about another scam that a lot of people are asking about it. I have remove and blocked these scams, at least for now.
James
TeslJobs.com |
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DMIXDJ
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: Kigndom Of Bahrain
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Hi all,
After a month of waiting, i finally heard back from our friends at 'the Ministry of labour' so, look's like they haven't given up just yet?
First email, still using the UAE scam tk site. Still not very good at letter writing for a 'Gov department' !!
Dear ...................
This is to acknowlegde the receipt of your application.
Mindyou,your application has been submitted, so the school Authority will contact you after Accessment of your Application
Sincerely
H.E. Dr. Khalid Mohammed Al Khazraji
Undersecretary of Labour Sector
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
MINISTRY OF LABOUR
Tel:+971-509468801
Email:[email protected]
www.uaeministryoflabour.tk
Under The Control of UAE Ministry of Labour
The second email, seems to use a new 'UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION LANGUAGE STUDIES' website, stiil from the Tk Domain.....
To/ ...................,
From/UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION LANGUAGE STUDIES,
We have today received your resume attached with your letter of
application and interview conducted on our behalf by Ministry of Labour.
After going through the submissions, we are satisfied and will be
sending to you your letter of employment and contract working details.
Urgently revert to us on reciept of this e-message.
Yours faithfully,
Jamal Al Mehairi
[UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION LANGUAGE STUDIES]
P.O.Box 295 Dubai United Arab Emirates
Tel/Fax:+971-501874915
Email:[email protected]
www.uaeministryofeducationlanguagestudies.tk
UNDER THE CONTROL OF UAE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION
Thought the Goverment would have had this Sorted by now??  |
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seven seas
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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The name of the guy at the bottom of the letter:
Jamal Al Mehairi?
Jamal?
JAMAL?
yeah, that's about as popular a name as Adolf. |
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ShaikhRattleandRoll
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| You guys are great for following this up, and without personal benefits attached other than perhaps altruistic ones. Although obviously time-consuming, you've been persistent. Thanks on behalf of those who are unaware of the potential money and heartache you have saved them. |
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gypsy woman
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 So now what do I do? I sent my resume and all my other info to this site that I thought was UAE Ministry of Labour as advertised on a site called ESLemployment. What exactly is the scam? Do jobs actually not exist?
So how do I find a job in the UAE thru the real MOL or some other source? |
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mishmumkin
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:04 am Post subject: |
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So now what do I do? I sent my resume and all my other info to this site that I thought was UAE Ministry of Labour as advertised on a site called ESLemployment. What exactly is the scam? Do jobs actually not exist?
So how do I find a job in the UAE thru the real MOL or some other source? |
Have you provided any money or passport info? If not, no worries. I think their scam is that they eventually collect money for visa fees, but I can't be sure. The jobs don't exist.
This site runs a number of ads for employers in the UAE, but your best bet is contacting them directly. Where you can work depends on your experience and qualifications. If you're not a k-12 qualified teacher the UAE is not for you. |
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fleart1
Joined: 03 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: I just bit |
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HI,
well I got the same emails but only got to the part where he sent me the email address to get the visas. I got suspicious when there was no website and the email address was turkey. Also, these people only replied when I wrote to them asking the status. They were very prompt to the day. Most employers dont respond immediately when they dont write back for one week and you write to them. I have another offer from ther that is a bit suspicious from Abu Dhabi Univ but checking it out with their human resources right now. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Actually .tk is not Turkey, but some island in the pacific which allows sleazy businesses to use their domain without any real legal control. (you can check them on Wikipedia)
Avoid anything with that address.
VS |
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chon nom
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: jobs in uae/dubai |
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So we're EFL teachers who are interested in coming to the gulf.
Can anyone PM me with LEGITIMATE recruiters/sites and can you tell me how much salaries should really be?
We have 2-3 years experience and TEFLs, and she's certified in the US
with 12 years experience.
Save us some stoopit time!
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mishmumkin
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: jobs in uae/dubai |
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| chon nom wrote: |
So we're EFL teachers who are interested in coming to the gulf.
Can anyone PM me with LEGITIMATE recruiters/sites and can you tell me how much salaries should really be?
We have 2-3 years experience and TEFLs, and she's certified in the US
with 12 years experience.
Save us some stoopit time!
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Avoid recruiters. The bes thing you can do is familize yourself w/ decent employers and contact them directly and/or plan to attend a job fair. Your wife w/ US certification will be easily employable. Do you have a masters in TESOL?
Your wife should look for salaries between 11,000-15,000 dirhams/month plus some sort of accommodation. That salary range applies to k-12 institutions that hire only certified teachers. |
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