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I did NOT Get the Job
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Paul in Saudi



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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Location: Doha, Qatar

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: I did NOT Get the Job Reply with quote

I am depressed. I did not get the job I was counting on. Further, it seems I screwed the interview. Nobody to blame but myself.

Further, today they Al-Qassim job slipped away. They are the same company as I am stuck with here. They refuse to transfer me. Sigh.

Since this company will not give me a LONO, I wonder why I am staying here while looking for a job. Perhaps I would be better off going back to the US and washing my passport while looking.

Your thoughts?
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Asda



Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 231

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

You have my sympathy. Altho a muslim from the UK, I think many western non-muslims realise that the K of SA is hardly a bed of roses for even us here. There are just a few benefits here which many western muslims hardly take advantage of anyway. Fact is that we are used to standards in the west, which we simply do not get here...

As one of my Sudanese colleagues describes it, as a concentration camp!! HAHA!

As for the passport...sounds like a plan to me! Very Happy

Thing is, would you leave on final exit or get an exit/re-entry, clean your passport and then come back in again on a new passport and visa? I have heard varying reports from it being untraceable (as it goes by passport number) to the jawazat (Passport Office) hammering you!! I saw a rather disturbing billboard ad from jawazat saying they now want fingerprints and retina scans!!! Shocked Maybe concentration camp runners can learn a few things from these guys!! Laughing

It may be worth getting the final exit stamp then...PLUS get a new passport on the safe side, or so I have heard.

Cheer up...
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Paul in Saudi



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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Location: Doha, Qatar

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not thought it through. Right now I am consoling myself with Baskin Robbins.
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trapezius



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 1670
Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which flavor? Razz
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Paul in Saudi



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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Location: Doha, Qatar

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chocolate. There is no other flavor.
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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to take Jim Beam for that. Or Johnnie Walker. Four Roses was good too. Myers Rum worked as well.

Now I just stick to tea or coffee.
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Wastaman



Joined: 23 Apr 2008
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While you have my sympathies I find it odd, after reading your epic saga, that you would want to return to Saudi in the first place.

Are you a glutton for punishment, do you really like the place so much that you're willing to be abused again.

Do you not have any other options?

If I were you I'd put the whole thing down to experience, learn from it and start afresh.........................perhaps the desert sun and the cabin fever are seriously affecting your judgement.
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sheikh radlinrol



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 1222
Location: Spain

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wastaman wrote:
While you have my sympathies I find it odd, after reading your epic saga, that you would want to return to Saudi in the first place.


Indeed. Paul definitely seems to be a masochist.
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sheikh radlinrol



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 1222
Location: Spain

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
I used to take Jim Beam for that. Or Johnnie Walker. Four Roses was good too. Myers Rum worked as well.

Now I just stick to tea or coffee.

Poor taste for a Scotsman! Have a Glenffidich on me, Scotty.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I used that too. And Glenmorangie. And Gin and Tonic. And Talisker.
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
Posts: 701
Location: Frank's Wild Years

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: I'd relocate Reply with quote

I'd relocate.

Libya is TEFL's best kept secret if you have a good job.

Quite often the money is better than Saudi NOW and you get 3 weeks holiday with return tickets every 42 days.

The students here also want to learn and are polite and friendly.

North African culture beats Gulf culture hands down.

Tripoli has an ex-pat scene that allows you to have a good social life.

I work in the desert and it's cool on this gig as the accommodation, food and gyms are all new and free.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some might have reservations about signing up with "Al Majnun min Tarabalus".
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Wastaman



Joined: 23 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

If you provided the forum with a brief rundown of your qualifications/exeprience/expectations etc then maybe someone out there could advise you.

I really think you should get 'out of Dodge' a sap.

Maybe you've become so used to being used as a carpet you've forgotten that there are alternatives out there.

Time to step up to the plate, bite the bullet or whatever.........time to go.
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Some might have reservations about signing up with "Al Majnun min Tarabalus".

Well, Uncle Scot, Colonel Gadafi used to be called Majnoun when he was the enemy No. 1 of Uncle Sam! But now he is a friend of Uncle Sam, so, I guess it is safe to go to work for the Colonel! Laughing
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
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Location: Frank's Wild Years

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Libya Reply with quote

Yep, things are changing here and my guess is that Libya will be boom town in the coming years. Loads of construction is going on, infrastructure is being developed and these days there are loads of foreigners in Tripoli...although the desert gigs are pretty well Libyanised.

Let's face it, everything you can do in Saudi you can do here. What's more, it's safe. The people here are extremely friendly, from the bloke who sells you fruit and veg to the people you work with. I also have a great deal of autonomy in the work place and good relations with my Libyan colleagues.

Regarding salaries....about 2,000 quid a month is the norm, which isn't amazing but it's ok. It can be more, it can be less. You get great holidays...I get 18 weeks paid a year with tickets. The desert is ok if you're with one of the newer companies. The facilities at my location are excellent. We have a new gym with rowing machines, cross trainers and bikes as well as all the free weights and a multi-gym. We have internet access from the office, sat tv, billiards, pool and a coffee bar. The rooms are better than most hotel rooms and are cleaned daily.

The big thing for me though is that the students want to learn and the bosses expect me to fail poor students..ie I can do my job ethically, which is often not the case in Saudi, Qatar etc. Anyone who has taught QP or Aramco can probably vouch for that.

I've heard it's still hard for Americans to get work visas here though. So, for all us Brits there's that bonus too:))
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