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Saskatchewan 23
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Hey I was wondering if anyone out there can varify these facts for me as I am presently going through the permanent residency process.
1) You must have held an ARC work visa for 5 consecutive years. (latest change from 6 years, December 2006).
2) You are only charged tax on income made in Taiwan and not on your
worldwide income.
Thanks for any help, much appreciated. |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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To begin with the only way to get permanent residency on the occupied territory of Taiwan is through a majority vote and three readings in the national legislator of the occupational authority of the Republic of China on Taiwan (ROC). To date there are less than 100 people who have done this. The majority of the people to granted permanent residency by the Legislative Yuan of the Republic of China are wanted organized crime figures who have obtained citizenship abroad and returned. There have been a few non Chinese who have obtained permanent residency on Taiwan under the ROC. I can think of three off the top of my head but their may be more. However their names were only put in the legislation to legitimize the numerous gangsters and criminals that were granted permanent residency in the first and only piece of legislation ever passed by the ROC Legislative Yuan allowing permanent residency of non Chinese people on Chinese occupied Taiwan / Formosa.
Permanent residency by definition:
the person is allowed to reside indefinitely within a country despite not having citizenship. A person with such status is known as a permanent resident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_residency
A dependent ARC or a 1 to 5 year renewable residency visa with highly restrictive requirents is not permanent residency. For all practical purposes it does not exist on Taiwan/Formosa under the foreign occupational authority of the Republic of China.
To answer your question you should apply through the Taipei office as the rules change depending on the time and place of the application. Taipei sets the minimum requirements and then the local offices add on as they go. There is also a maximim quota for non Chinese applicants so you should apply in early January to increase your chances.
Good luck!
A.
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dangerousapple
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Horsepoop. There are lots of people who have the APRC. I personally know 3 people in Kaohsiung alone that have it. The only reason I haven't applied for it is that I'm on the marriage visa, which actually has less restrictions. |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Horsepoop. There are lots of people who have the APRC. I personally know 3 people in Kaohsiung alone that have it. The only reason I haven't applied for it is that I'm on the marriage visa, which actually has less restrictions. |
I think you missed the point or perhaps I was not being clear. Just because it is called an Alien Permanent Residency Certificate does not mean it offers permanent residency. You still have to maintain physical residency for at least half the year and earn a minimum of 200% the national minimum wage of the ROC or it automatically becomes invalid. It must also be renewed every 1 to 5 years and can be extra judiciously revoked without a hearing or trial at any time.
That is not permemnt residency and it does not gaurantee you any of the rights gauranteed to Chinese by the constitution of the occupational authority of the ROC on Tawan/Formosa.
Your residency visa based on marriage is not permanent residency either and you will be deported if your spouse divorces you or dies. It also must be renewed every 1 to 3 years and can be revoked through extra judicial means.
Lies, deception and racism are the very basis of the ROC (Republic of Corruption) on Taiwan/Formosa. If you want to live here you better get used to it.
Good luck!
A. |
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Saskatchewan 23
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Thank you, I know that I have to be here for 6 months but I am still unaware of how much money I have to make. What is 200% of the national miniumum wage?
I was told the 10,000 NT application fee is a one time thing. I do not know if it is refundable if my request is denied. Also I am not aware of a 1 to 5 year renewal fee.
Thanks for the info. It helps. |
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Saskatchewan 23
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Okay I did some of my own research on the minimum wage question. Let's see if I got this straight.
The new minumum wage in Taiwan is 17,280 per month which would
make that 207,360 NT per year. So my wife and I would have to make 200% or double that which would be 414,720 NT per year.
How's my Math?
Thanks for all or any imput. I also hope that this link can help others. |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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414,720 NT per year.
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You would have to make that by yourself and be able to prove it with a tax return or bank statement. Not a big problem for a teacher working full time but you have to do that every year. Plus 5 years residency if you had a spouse sponsored visa or 7 (6?) years on an ARC.
A friend of mine just came back from Tainan refused because he was on several ARC's over the seven year period. I had another friend from Nigeria who has applied every year for the last 9 years and been refused every time for different reasons even though he seemed to meet all the requirements.
I suspect, how strict they are really depends on how far the ROC immigration Agency are into their race quota's and your perceived race and nationality. Apply in Taipei, in January to meet the least resistance.
Good luck!
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Saskatchewan 23
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| Did your friend pay the 10,000NT required fee everytime? |
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Miyazaki
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
| Lies, deception and racism are the very basis of the ROC (Republic of Corruption) on Taiwan/Formosa. If you want to live here you better get used to it. |
And Aristotle comes out swinging!
Two thumbs up!  |
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JZer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Your residency visa based on marriage is not permanent residency either and you will be deported if your spouse divorces you or dies. It also must be renewed every 1 to 3 years and can be revoked through extra judicial means. |
If true this is one of the biggest crocks. So if you wife dies and you have been living here and have kids to take care of you are screwed. What if you are running your own business or something? |
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Saskatchewan 23
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| My Taiwanese friend insists that you do not need 200% of the minimum wage requirement (that is for citizenship). She claims that you do not need any miniumum income at all. This does not make sense to me. If there is someone with an APRC could you shed some light on this and the advantages of an APRC. |
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forest1979
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't Michael Turton on his weblog once mention the issue of foreigners and citizenship. Knowing what Michael is like he's more than open to responding to email, and I know who I'd trust for info given a comparison of Aristotle or Michael. |
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Miyazaki
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| forest1979 wrote: |
| I know who I'd trust for info given a comparison of Aristotle or Michael. |
I don't necessarily agree with that.
It's clear that Michael has an agenda as well. |
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Miyazaki
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Saskatchewan 23 wrote: |
| ...could you shed some light on this and the advantages of an APRC. |
not as many benefits to it as I initially thought. I have friends in Taiwan that have it - I'll ask them. But from what I remember, it was slightly more convenient in terms of no work restrictions (they're university instructors).
Some of these guys have been in Taiwan, on and off (U.S. Military) since like 1968 and early 1970s.
I know people who could easily obtain it it seems, but haven't.
Why would anyone want to stay in Taiwan - that's the mystery to me. |
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killian
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i knew this chilean woman once in hualian. she had been in taiwan for 20 years, married to a taiwanese man. mother of two taiwanese kids.
the guy divorced her and she had like 90 days to leave the island.
she had merely invested everything she had in taiwan and they threw her off like a stripper does panties. |
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