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Moon Over Parma

Joined: 20 May 2007
Posts: 819

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

Songbird wrote:

Not wishing to scare anyone, but I have heard a wee little rumour that all SAFEA schools in China are now required to NOT cover electricity in new contracts! I heard this from a friend in Suzhou, but they're supposed to give you an 'allowance' as such.

"Rumor," from a, "friend." That pretty much says it all.

I reviewed 20 contracts from public universities across the country this semester. Only four had stipulations where the teacher pays something; all of those contracts came from universities in Nanjing. All provided on campus housing. Two tried to rook the teacher for all utilities. One paid a paltry 250RMB a month in utilities and anything above it was covered by the teacher. The other wanted electricity and internet connectivity to be covered by the teacher. All of the schools laughable pay for a city the size of Nanjing. None of the schools would negotiate those stipulations, so into the trash the contracts went and onto my personal blacklist their names did go. All of the other contracts I looked over provided housing and paid for utilities, and if I recall, four offered private, off campus apartments plus utilities. I considered two different positions in Harbin, but found a more lucrative offer from schools in other parts of the country. Neither cheapened out and offered pay above 4,700, and both also offered to pay utilities upon negotiation. I still chose another school that paid substantially more (and they also paid utilities).

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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 1750
Location: Ch

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

louis.p wrote:

Yes, 16 teaching hours. Travel expenses are reimbursed. Paid holidays are not explicitly mentioned in the contract, except for winter vacation. The contract says nothing about a completion bonus, though. I will need to pay income tax. Additionally, It stipulates that I need to obtain a Z-visa before I arrive at the school and pay all of the visa's costs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there shouldn't be any Chinese income tax on 4,700 a month. If I remember correctly it begins to kick in after 4,800 per month, and only on the excess. So if they deduct income tax from you, you are probably filling someone's pocket.

Another thought is that if they include that phrase, they may have paid the last laowai or two more than 4,800 and therefore may be willing to give you more.

william wallace

Joined: 14 May 2003
Posts: 2869
Location: in between

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:

Not going into the hair splitting thingy - Surely you can do better than that,eh ?

louis.p

Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Posts: 107
Location: Tainan, Taiwan

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:

thanks everyone.

wulfrun

Joined: 12 May 2008
Posts: 167

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:33 am Post subject:

arioch36 wrote:

One semester, one way airfare. One year contract (ten month contract is regarded as a one year contract with the summer .... ignored)
One year contract, round trip/

interesting to know that it's a legal requirement. tsinghua university in beijing does not pay for airfare. all their FTs begrudgingly sign the contract anyway. even for a year's contract, no airfare.

Moon Over Parma

Joined: 20 May 2007
Posts: 819

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:00 am Post subject:

wulfrun wrote:

Beijing has become "teh suck" of university jobs (typo intended). Criminally low wages generally being offered by many public schools with good reputations, chintzy airfare, etc.: great city, crap situation.

wulfrun

Joined: 12 May 2008
Posts: 167

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:03 am Post subject:

Moon Over Parma wrote:

wulfrun wrote:

thx, useful to know. so which cities are the better ones?

amphivera

Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 27
Location: China

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:59 am Post subject:

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Ths is true. From the esljobproject.com China tax info page:

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ENGLISH TEACHERS - If you are teaching at a SAFEA approved school and have a monthly salary of less than 4,800 RMB you will be taxed at 0%. If your income is over 4,800 RMB you will be taxed at 20%.

Make sure they're not screwing you over!

Moon Over Parma

Joined: 20 May 2007
Posts: 819

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject:

wulfrun wrote:

thx, useful to know. so which cities are the better ones?

Hangzhou, Xiamen, Taizhou, Wuxi, Suzhou, and Ningbo, to name but a few.

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