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Airfare Reimbursement - Increasing prices

 
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7969



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Airfare Reimbursement - Increasing prices Reply with quote

just curious if anyone has, or expects to run into any problems getting their air ticket reimbursement or cash equivalent in the coming days. the price of most air tickets has gone up a lot this year (including additional surcharges as well).

my first air ticket reimbursement in 2004 netted me about RMB3500. in 2006 i got RMB6600 (the school tried to deny me payment but i stuck it out, called their bluff and got the money). in 2007 my airfare came to RMB15,000, and expect the same at the end of this contract. with these increasing costs, it wont surprise me if schools start (if they havent already) paying a lot less or rewording the airfare benefit on the contract.

what about anyone else out there?

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therock



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of schools these days offer a set airfare allowance, it doesn't matter how much you pay they still give you the amount set in the contract. Most schools offer between 8000 to 10,000.
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Ger



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some schools write in the contract that you will get airfare reimbursement for a 1 year contract, but the contract offered is only for 10 months, so the schools argue that you haven't worked there for a year, therefore, they say you have to come back the next year to work or they don't have to pay your airfare - sometimes they tell you that they don't even want you back the next year!
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TexasHighway



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school expects to see a paper ticket before they will reimburse airfare. I explained to them that I had an e-ticket and the only evidence i could show them was an email electronic invoice. That was unacceptable but finally they agreed to copy my boarding pass. I am sure many schools in China are still behind the times in the world of e-tickets so make sure you keep all of your boarding passes.
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Anda



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

I had a lot of trouble at the end of my first year here working at a government college but after being ten weeks late and being told don't worry we will pay you they said no but they decided to pay up when I said pay or I walk. This year they have been at it again but after two months they have agreed to pay as on the contract where it clearly states 7,000 RMB for airfares and 2,200 for travel allowance. As you can read I started in advance this year. I ended up getting four letters written in Chinese one to the Party Head of the college, one to the principal, vice principal and another to the head lady of the office. The letters were written in a formal way requesting a guarantee of payment of airfares and travel allowance at the end of the contract on time.

I finish up with them in two weeks time. I am also going to see Foreign Affairs to have them standing in the background watching as I do not trust my government college in the slightest.

The Chinese head English teacher had me teaching his private classes for him last summer holidays at the college passing them off as college classes for which I didn't get paid. At the end of my first ten months my good English speaking principal left and now the whole management cannot speak English so the Head Chinese English teacher has had a field day of making up false stories about me. Result I didn't get reconstructed with. However I now have a better job and a good new boss who speaks English so I win.

New contract states door to door travel costs paid half after six months and half after 12 months. Government contracts pay after ten months if contract is for ten months so they get out of paying for summer holidays. Great government um! So far however I have got all my holidays paid for.


Bottom line if it isn't written on the contract then they don't have to pay. Everything clanged here about a year back so forget the good old days, they have finished. Contract wording is everything now.

Foreign Affairs should be your last line of help but they are the ones with the power. Try to settle things politely but have a big stick behind your back!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am sure many schools in China are still behind the times in the world of e-tickets so make sure you keep all of your boarding passes

Etickets are now common place on Chinese domestic flights - don't be fooled by schools who pretend to act ignorant over the Eticket Idea
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought 4 airline tickets from Elong.net recently - all were E tickets , no paper tickets.

They are just trying to scam you of course.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Etickets are now common place on Chinese domestic flights - don't be fooled by schools who pretend to act ignorant over the Eticket Idea


Yes. But they aren't necessarily trying to fool you. E-tickets are commonplace, but how many staff workers at Chinese schools actually do fly - domestic or international.

The colleges here have many departments and offices. Your FAO is in charge of contracting you, and your English department dean is in charge of scheduling you, but your pay comes from the accounting/finance department. It's pretty much the same way as back home if you've ever taught college - minus the FAO part.

The person at your school in charge of reimbursement is in the accounting/finance department. She's probably never flown ever, much less in the last couple of years. She's charged with reimbursing airfare against airline ticket invoices. A paper printout of an e-ticket doesn't cut it under (her) old rules - a receipt for every payout.

She'll learn, probably on your e-ticket. As mentioned, save the boarding passes and submit them. You'll get your money.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The person at your school in charge of reimbursement is in the accounting/finance department. She's probably never flown ever, much less in the last couple of years.

In schools (especially private ones) - those dealing with the school finances, the accountants - are usually some of the best paid workers!!!! They are quite often one of the staff members that drive to work in their own cars. In fact this position holds so much responsibility that they are often taken by family members of the owner - or in state schools by folk that have good official gaunxi. The Chinese are very suspicious of workers fiddling the books - so pay very special attention and care about who they select to deal with the school finances

As for flying in China. There are now - despite rising fuel costs - so many discounts that taking a plane is sometimes almost as cheap as taking the soft sleeper on the train. Somebody with the position of accountant certainly earns enough to take the occasional flight to see the sights in Beijing or go for a winter holiday in Hainan.

But regardless of whether they fly or not - there will be members of the school - especially the head and senior teachers - who will fly to meetings or training seminars - and who do you think will deal with their ticket purchase and reimbursement?????? Does anybody believe that these school VIP's have any problem getting money back on their Etickets Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

By the way - Air China first started using Etickets in 2003. Hardly a new concept in China - even for a prehistoric dinosaur of an accountant!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Chinese wife's father was an accountant. (He has passed away). my wife told me that her father said, before the first day of work, he was told the salary was very low, but that he would be able to skim off plenty. Not a myth or stereotype, just how it is.
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