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louis.p
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: Tainan, Taiwan
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 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: Missing strata, so to speak (Z Visa Question) |
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Firstly, thank you for your time. This forum has been wonderfully useful. I am an American; I have taught English professionally for one year in Taiwan, and I'm preparing to move to China in August.
I've spent a great deal of time excavating this board's strata, and I have a question; if I go to Hong Kong, with an invitation letter from my prospective university and other required documents, in pursuit of a Z visa, will I be required to present the results of a health check.
Update:
Note: Foreigners employed in China for one year or longer is required to provide health certificate. (taken from Hong Kong's office: http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/qzlb/default.htm )
Does this match up with anyone's experience?
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Orrin
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Location: Zhuhai, China
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| If you have all the required documents (invitation letter, etc.), why don't you contact your local Chinese consulate or embassy and procure the Z visa before you come to China or HK? That would be far more simple. |
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louis.p
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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There are no local Chinese consulates or embassies in the country I'm living in -- that being Taiwan.
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louis.p
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: See Below |
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This question has been dealt with repeatedly here on this board but let's go again.
First, under the current rules, I am not sure at all, meaning I am more sure not then sure for sure, that you will be issued a Z visa in Hong Kong. You may just find, like thousands of others at the present moment, that you will be required to process the Z visa in your country of residence, i.e., the country of which you carry a passport. Things have been become really, really strict here during the O*ymp*c period and after July 1st, well, you can kiss "hope" good-bye so to speak. If you are speaking of having a Z visa issued in Hong Kong between July 1, 2008 and October 1, 2008, well, frankly, I would jump off the Empire State Building and expect to live before I would believe that I could walk out of the Visa Office in HK with a Z visa during this period.. Just read, look, and listen. These are tough times here for people in irregular situations and people coming over with no visas and people used to doing the Hong Kong run-through. How could you have missed all of the threads on this Board and all over the Internet in general?
Next, your letter of invitation and the other sufficient paperwork will be enough to cause a Z visa to be issued at the proper Consulate in your country of origin. That being said, however, you should not think for one moment that you will escape the rigors of a medical examination should you manage to arrive in China at all during this period. Your Z visa only facilitates your entry into China for work purposes. Once you have arrived, you will taken to a the Official Foreigners' Medical Bureau or whatever they call it in your local area and you will be examined, probed, tested, etc,. etc. The results will issue in about five working days. Should you pass the examination, the school will take your passport, your medical and a host of other papers to the PSB who during the current period may or may not issue you a residence permit. You should take absolutely nothing for granted during the next three months.
Additionally, should have the ill grace to be a citizen of one of those countries that was seen to behave badly when the T*rch passed thorugh, like France, Germany, etc., etc., well, your chances of a visa are as good as Christmas in July.
It's a different world over here now and a lot of caution is truly advised.
But, tell me, have you not been aware of the situation? |
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louis.p
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: Tainan, Taiwan
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hello North China Laowei,
Perhaps you didn't understand my question: do I need a health check to get a Z visa in Hong Kong? That information was not on this board, as far as I know, until I posted it in my update.
I am living in Taiwan; I have a residence visa in Taiwan, and perhaps I will be able to apply for a Z visa from here, perhaps not. I'll call and find out next week -- like I said. That portion of this thread was not a question, but was me posting a link that others may find useful at some point, specifically people living in Taiwan.
As for your comment about the French and Germans, it sounds like utter nonsense to me. Are you taking this from legitimate sources or are you pulling it out of something less, shall we say, reliable? |
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And Your Bird Can Sing
Joined: 26 May 2008
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Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Missing strata, so to speak (Z Visa Question) |
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Why does it not surprise me that a governmental body here in the SAR of HK cannot even produce a sentence with subject-verb concord (i.e., 'foreigners' & 'is') in an official communiqu�? |
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louis.p
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: See Below |
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[quote="North China Laowei"]
| louis.p wrote: |
Nex That being said, however, you should not think for one moment that you will escape the rigors of a medical examination ... you will be examined, probed, tested, etc,. etc.
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I've had the medical test in China -- I lived in Chongqing as a teenager -- and it's not that bad, buddy. |
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louis.p
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: See Below |
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| North China Laowei wrote: |
This question has been dealt with repeatedly here on this board but let's go again.
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Lastly, this question hasn't been dealt with repeatedly. I'm not asking if I can go to Hong Kong to apply, but if I can apply from Taiwan. If you read the contents of the link, you would of seen that "business people" can obtain visas from Hong Kong via Taiwan. Hence my question.
Your comments are totally irrelevant in regards to my initial question and my remaining comments. |
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louis.p
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Missing strata, so to speak (Z Visa Question) |
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| And Your Bird Can Sing wrote: |
Why does it not surprise me that a governmental body here in the SAR of HK cannot even produce a sentence with subject-verb concord (i.e., 'foreigners' & 'is') in an official communiqu�? |
Yeah, somewhat funny: I can get 10-year-old English students to make the proper inflections daily. But hey, it's not their native language. |
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arioch36
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Your question is very valid. Unfortunately, I think the honest answer is we do not know. Even more unfortuanately the consulate in Hong Kong does not know.
I wish I had their info in front of me. Over the years Foever bright?? Or is it everbright has been offering visa services near the hong Kong border and have never have I heard of them steering someone wrong. Doing this all the time, I feel they would know.
My strong impression is that the medical form is totally unneeded in Hong Kong, but then every one talks about things changing this summer because of the olympics.
So definitely do a quick search on the two names, one is right. If no luck, tomorow i will dig up the address.
Again, in seven years, i have never known this company to be wrong. I have known lots of laowai to be right and wrong
Often NC Laowai has something very helpful to say. Other times he/she speaks with authority even when knowing nothing about thesituation (maybe a bit like me?)
Again, I agree, this question has not been answered
Regarding the needing a healt exam if employed here a year or more; a ten or 11 month teaching contract is considered one year. Regardless of whether you have to do a medical before coming, you will do a medical (usually about a half hour) after arriving at your mainland school, before your school can apply for your residence permit |
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louis.p
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arioch36
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, forever bright. I was posting late last night after coming home. Bu hao yisi, lots of spelling mistakes. Never heard yet of Foreverbright misleading anyone, that's saying something for any company, much less a Chinese company. Their website should be a sticky |
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GeminiTiger
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Location: China, 2005--Present
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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http://www.fbt-chinavisa.com.hk/
Work Visa (Z Visa)
Issued to foreigners who are to take up a post or employment in China and their accompanying family members. Work visa is not available in our office. |
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TexasHighway
Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| There are no local Chinese consulates or embassies in the country I'm living in -- that being Taiwan. |
Just a word to the wise...while in mainland China, if you refer to Taiwan as a country, be prepared to deal with the consequences. |
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