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macedonianmike
Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: Novosibirsk, Siberia |
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I've been living here for about seven months and will be returning home in the summer. My school will have a couple openings for native speakers. If anyone is interested please send me a private message. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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I heard the pay was even worse than Moscow, am I right ? And what can they offer that might excite those to go to Siberia rather than Moscow. |
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sukoma
Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 16 Location: Longmont, CO
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there's more to Russia than Moscow. If Moscow's the most expensive city in the world, perhaps there is better opportunity in other cities where the cost of living might not be as high. There's also the element of adventure involved for some of us looking to teach in Russia...remember, there is a lot going on in this country. Any info on Novosibirsk would be rather helpful. Thank you for posting... |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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sukoma wrote: |
Well, there's more to Russia than Moscow. If Moscow's the most expensive city in the world, perhaps there is better opportunity in other cities where the cost of living might not be as high. There's also the element of adventure involved for some of us looking to teach in Russia...remember, there is a lot going on in this country. Any info on Novosibirsk would be rather helpful. Thank you for posting... |
I would also like to hear about any info in Novisibirsk or other places in Siberia. Anything to attract those with families there? offers of housing etc. No doubt accomadation , flight and other travel costs covered, and what about visa assistance and legal invitations? A this should be discussed and don't forget the most important issue SALARY!!! with the full package.
Yes!! there is no doubt Siberia has wealth, because when I wrked in an English EFL summer camp, near OXFORD, All the Rusian students came from Siberia, not Moscow. I migt well have met your pupils in England??
Athough I'm intersted, it's unlikely I wuld be interested, as I have famiy to keep. a house to build, a good car to run etc. I cant see a resident teacher earning enough for decent income in Siberia. Im earning between now at 1500 rooblees per academic hour, and I am busy fulltime. I have already warned that it will be 2000 rooblees per academic hour for the September 2008 season.
I honestly can't see anything in Siberia for resident families in Siberia, or for even the back-packers. ven though there does appear to be walth their from parents, perhaps even more than Moscow. But the schools don't think that way, do they?
Thanks for an interesting post, and I hope it continues. Moscow versus Siberia. I suspect the argument is Moscow will be the winner.
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macedonianmike
Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 64
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Well salary should be viewed relative to cost of living. How much is rent in Moscow? My place (with a roommate) is right in the center, 5 minutes from the metro, and can walk to work, completely "remonted" and furnished, for about 18k rubles. You can find a lot cheaper if you're willing to travel a bit. Transportation is cheap..about 200 for a taxi anywhere along the metro lines and 12ru for the metro, 14ru for a bus. Nightlife and restaurants can be expensive but if you know the right people you can get by pretty well. Still, you don't teach in Russia for the money. You can live ok but definately not affluently. I would advise anyone coming from the EU or US to save up as much as possible because it can take some time to get started, build up a student base, learn where to shop and go out etc...
As far as why Siberia? I chose Novosibirsk for a few reasons: it's not too big (about 2 million people), it's not too expensive, and I thought there would be more of a chance to practice my Russian with fewer foreigners here. All three of these turned out to be true. And regarding the last, with few native speakers here there is little competition and it's very easy to find well paying side work. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: How much to charge? |
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Bels is right-in Moscow region,whether we like it or not,there are plenty of people who can afford to pay 2000 roubles per academic hour for English lessons,especially when they are with an experienced native teacher like him who takes pride in providing a good quality service!For those who want to pay less,they can go to the 'Macdonalds' schools where the teachers earn peanuts and change every week!One of the most important things for a foreigner to learn over there is that you have to be mercenary where making money is concerned because that's how it is in Russia!Everyone is out for what they can get,and believe you me,there are people around in Moscow who make far more than most of us can even imagine!If you have qualms about it,nobody else will.By all means be fair and friendly,provide a good service but don't be ashamed of charging for it because Russians believe that good things cost good money and are prepared to spend!To them,cheap prices suggest bad quality!
But to be fair,Bels lives in a very pleasant suburban area where most of the elite prefer it to the smog, congestion and grime of the city centre and he teaches there too so he avoids the nightmare of commuting etc!
If only some of firms would get the message and start paying teachers decent salaries etc....but then again,I' m sure Bels is quite happy with the present status-quo!! |
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Eamonn
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Hi there,
Any reputable language schools in Novosibirsk people could mention?
I'm planning a move to Russia for a year or more and would love to base myself in this fine city...i'm just eager to secure something that pays enough to get pay and enjoy oneself, and for a chance to learn Russian.
Failing this i'm considering one of the jobs in small cities outside Moscow that BKC offer...free accom and russian lessons being the attraction.
I'm a newbie really...if thats a factor...i've experience in financial sector so intend to focus on business english after the CELTA is done. |
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mdk
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 425
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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It's too bad the British Council has been run out of town. Without some sort of support like that, I suggest you do the year with BKC or somebody like that so that you can get your Russian chops in.
Then, you can take your extra cash and get on the train and go around to the local universities out there and see if something (in the words of Mr. Micawber) turn up. |
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