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vikuk

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Looking for new jobs this sumer. Talked to New Dynamic Institute (mentioned in a different thread .. their contract really is terrible) |
On the subject of NDI and the direction in which EFL China is heading, here's some NDI blurb -
As a professional English training center, New Dynamic English inherits such a concept which recognizes that language learning is a skill fostering process, it also imports global-scale advanced multimedia interactive courses from DynEd� Corporation in Silicon Valley of US and conclude a sort of scientific and high efficient New Dynamic English learning solution package targeting the Chinese people's learning habits and difficulties ��
This, I think, is a rather typical example of the way EFL in China is portrayed by mainstream Chinese teaching companies - as an educational machine where scientific process is the name of the game. Dazzling potential customers into thinking that they've found the solution to their language future is where so much investment is focused.
But in their classrooms? By the look of the low wages NDI are offering to pay their FT "language scientists" (I doubt if any real teaching expert will ever be tempted over to China by them - they hardly compete with the other mills on that front) - then I think this vision of the way EFL is heading - maybe contains a rather large element of science fiction!!!!!!! |
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TangWolun

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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During the interview they asked me what was most I thought was most important. I decided to be honest, as I had little intention of accepting their horrible contract. "Help promote a learning environment where they can improve their english."
The interviewer for NDI said, "What is really most important is that you are humourous and make them laugh." Exact words. Don't get me wrong, when humour occurs in the classroom, it is usually welcomed. But I haven't sunk that low yet. I am sure they will get exactly the right teacher for their school |
The extraordinary aspect of what Chris is referring to here is the unabashed arrogance and superiority in the way that these pedagogic jems are delivered. Please dont brand me as a racist. I've had plenty of experience with the Chinese scum in this "industry" as I have the true gentlemen and scholarly academics.
........yes mate, maybe what's happening is a good thing......I dont know..........wait till get there and have more first hand experience.
Maybe virkuk is right ...just wait on a bit!
Vikuk:...."Dazzling potential customers into thinking that they've found the solution to their language future is where so much investment is focused." .....very true !!
TangWolun
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vikuk

Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Any notion of being right or wrong depends on what side of the EFL fence you're sitting.
EFL for the private training school owners and their management groups is all about business and trying to exploit opportunities in the hope of creating profit. If creating profit is about combining the employment of cheap, unskilled, foreign labor with classroom showbiz (make 'em laugh), while investing a great deal of resource in the quest of convincing prospective customers to open their wallets, because this is indeed a "good school" - then for them money thinking is the right way to view EFL.
But over here on the FT side of the barrier - things are a little different - since some of us have actually decided to come to China with the hope of doing a job. Being part of a profit centered set-up, which maybe operates on a very dubious educational foundation - that could pay bellow average hourly wages, gives little time off and, in the case of the mills, expects its employees to work on a schedule that focuses on evening and weekends can take the shine off an FT's China stay - where feeling bad about your China employment starts to feel wrong!!!
But being on different sides of a fence ain't the whole problem, there's also that working culture factor to contend with. Chinese employers may not yet be used to employees -
- feeling a pride in their work
- showing personal responsibility towards standards of service
- being prepared to confront management with regard to poor quality and service
- trying to create working situations that produce personal levels of job satisfaction, rather than just mindlessly burning those working hours off
- openly demanding better conditions
But I suppose on our side of the fence - EFL heading towards a place which makes the China stay a more rewarding time - then living up to some of those points - culture clash or no - could seem the right way to go  |
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TangWolun

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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...............so Let's get a bit more convenience in having access to these materials. The stuff is all out there on the net now at the following locations.
CHINA EFL: HOLISTIC ENGLISH
The revolution has begun but the long march lies ahead.
A major research paper involving 11 foreign teachers at 6 colleges and universities in four provinces of china report the results of implementing an English acquisition program designed exclusively for Chinese college students.
http://www.usingenglish.com/esl-in-china/holistic-english-1.pdf
http://www.usingenglish.com/esl-in-china/holistic-english-2.pdf
it's there for the downloading and free!
Cheers
TangWolun.
我英文学生不想猴子!!! |
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Song&Dance

Joined: 04 Jul 2008 Posts: 176
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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TangWolun wrote: |
...............so Let's get a bit more convenience in having access to these materials. The stuff is all out there on the net now at the following locations.
CHINA EFL: HOLISTIC ENGLISH
The revolution has begun but the long march lies ahead.
A major research paper involving 11 foreign teachers at 6 colleges and universities in four provinces of china report the results of implementing an English acquisition program designed exclusively for Chinese college students.
http://www.usingenglish.com/esl-in-china/holistic-english-1.pdf
http://www.usingenglish.com/esl-in-china/holistic-english-2.pdf
it's there for the downloading and free!
Cheers
TangWolun.
我英文学生不想猴子!!! |
That is one heck of a report and it certainly changes the EFL oral English landscape in China.
I have never seen lowai teachers get together and do something like that before. It is amazing but most importantly the students gave it high praise. We all know that the real objective is happy students!
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY PETRO CHINA LATCHED ONTO IT. IT WORKS. |
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