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[andrew_cafe]

Im a 24 year old business graduate who has decided to teach overseas for 6-12 months. After months of thinking about it, I have decided to start making arrangements to teach. China seems preferable because I have experiance living in developing countries, and it seems as though its become rather dynamic, if you excuse the cliche. I know a couple of people in Shanghai and hear its the city where people are most likely to speak English. Japan has always appealed but I hear finding work has been hard since the NOVA collapse.

What I want to know is if anyone knows any employers in China who provide a good training programme for their new teachers? With lots of people relying on you, I obviously think training is a necessity. The TEFL qualification is genuine problem, I simply dont have the finances to spend 1600 dollors on the qulification in the UK. Although its worth asking you its not worth going without the TEFL? I mean in terms of getting a secure position, a reliable employer and the ability to teach. I like security, I wouldn't be happy going from week to week seaching for work.

In truth, working with children or within the Chinese state system doesn't patricuarly interest me, I would be more interested in private schools. I have a good business degree but I was wondering if the relevant course for teaching this is availible in China? I even heard somewhere that some companies teach you the course then put you to work, although i cant find the details. Yes, if the financial benfits are worth it, then teaching business English would be good.

Anyway, thanks for reading all that through and thankyou for anwers and opinions, even criticisms.

Regards,

Andrew

[william wallace]

This IS China...Can you entertain ? Make people laugh ? Shoot the ...breeze with strangers ? Do you have a talent for singing or dancing or stand up comedy ? Yes? Then welcome to ESL/EFL China.. .. ... ...
BUT, make sure you act serious at the beginning Do you have a B.A. ? Then make it an MBA. Business background ? Make it a tremendous full body, full career extravaganza - Then partee down to ESL China

[james s]

U need nothing to teach business. U will be competing with people who have nothing, teaching business.

Just get into country, understand it, understand the dynamic of the esl industry, then start.

I knew guys who were traching business related courses with no background.

My personal take: do not teach business for 100/hr. teach business english for 150/hr or more depending on your market, and teach business for what you paid for it back in your home land. yes i know the average salary of the average chinese is low. if u take all of the big city salaries of those who want / need the english, u will find it is not that low anymore.

250/hr for business-and u will find they just want the english anyways.

good luck.

[SnoopBot]

It helps to have some business experience and the proper business education to squeeze out the higher rates.

As mentioned above, often the cheapest teachers are the ones without real business experience. .

Those institutions that DO value Fortune 500 experience and a 1st tier MBA graduate/teacher often will pay +5000 RMB for a short session seminar. (Saturday seminar for a few hours/speech)

I am sure Bill Gates would be paid very well for a mini-seminar at some company seminar.

For the real world, I have been paid 200-500 RMB per hour to teach certain business topics.

To get this wage: (For them to agree to actually pay me )

I have experience in business and in a Fortune 100 Company.
Business experience in two countries as the business owner
MBA from a Good US university
+Five-years teaching experience in China
MA Ed degree w/TESOL and Bilingual Education -Top US University.
Intermediate: Chinese Language ability
Most important: Guanxi Network connections to find/be offered these positions as they open up.


Therefore, 200-500 is typical for most (that meet some/all of the conditions above) you can judge your typical revenue income based on this scale with your own income and education, experience and teaching method.

Do not accept lower than 200, I have seen others accept under 100 RMB an hour. Of course, I am sure most of these people are not real business trained/educated people. As mentioned above, they often under-cut the potential wages of fellow teachers with real business backgrounds.

This is the reality of the Chinese business ESL market (In Beijing