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Mary Ann Davis
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: Is this true? Olympics made go to country to get visa rule? |
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| I signed a contract & sent scans to the Chinese uni that hired me. They wrote back, thanking me, and said that because of the Olympics I'd have to return to my country of origin to get the visa done there!!! This really screws me up. Help. Is this gonna be the case w all China this year? Mary Ann Davis |
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Anda
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Jiangsu Province
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: Um |
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| Are you in China now between jobs? Provided you have a release from your old employer then you should be able to do it in country. If you are after a z visa then you could be up for a trip to another country. Korea is out plus Hong Kong last I heard! |
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jeffinflorida
Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 2024
Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Mary Ann... I can tell you that i got a new visa from a new school in China before I went back to Florida...
The rules change? maybe, maybe not. |
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fitzgud
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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Location: Henan province
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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I was faced with a similar problem, I emailed the visa office in Hong Kong. The reply I received the same day said, " Of course you can still get a Z visa in Hong Kong providing you have the letter of invitation". I was able to transfer and extend my residents permit to another province so did not need to visit Hong Kong.
You will find the email address on their website. |
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letchluther
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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I was told the same thing, sent my passport to a us visa agent and had them do it. I got my residence permit with no problem, cost me $350 bucks though.
checkout pandavisa.com, mychinavisa.com
those are the ones i looked into.
good luck |
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Leon Purvis
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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Location: Nowhere Near Beijing
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: |
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That's using your head!
It's strange, but I would never have though of that, even though while I was in the U.S., that was what I did. It makes sense. This should be put up as a sticky for people to consider this course of action.
I just wonder, though, what was your next step after you got the visa put in your passport? |
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eddy-cool
Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I may be new to this forum but I am not a newbie, so mya personal experiences may be of interest to some.
I am moving from one employer to another; the two terms of employment are two months and a couple of weeks apart. That poses a few tricky problems:
The old RP expired in June, and the new one is scheduled to go into effect in September. The interlude of two months and a half have to be covered by 3 visa extensions.
Normally - I was informed by my FAO - you can apply for TWO extensions. This year they are granted for 30 days maximum... a considerable challenge there.
I have already received my first one-month visa (others would call it 'visa extension' but I had no visa before, just an RP). The second will kick in sometime next week (if we apply on time). Luckily the extension isn't going to lapese on this weekend...
I will then have a 10 day gap to bridge, and I am worried about that.
But frantically made enquiries to 'knowledgeable' experts have produced the mollifying consent that a final ten-day extension is available for anyone staying until the last day of their last extension.
What is, perhaps, decisive is that my new employer is in the possession of my Foreign Expert Certificate. Having been cleared by my ex-employer for a new contract with another college, the new employer has been able to procure my FEC.
Bear in mind that if you have no FEC you will first have to satisfy the authorities that you are suitably qualified to occupy a teaching vacancy. WIthout an FEC you may very well have to go back to your home country to apply for a Z visa. |
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: See Below |
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| letchluther wrote: |
I was told the same thing, sent my passport to a us visa agent and had them do it. I got my residence permit with no problem, cost me $350 bucks though.
checkout pandavisa.com, mychinavisa.com
those are the ones i looked into.
good luck |
Something doesn't make sense here. A US visa agent cannot obtain a residence permit; they can obtain a Z visa which is good for 30-days upon entry into China. If you are currently in China and the passport was mailed to you in China, how will you prove your legal entry into China and when and at what point will the 30-day ticker begin? This is one situation in which I would not place myself under any circumstances...can you imagine being charged with illegal entry into the PRC in this climate? When the PSB goes to issue your new residence permit, they will ask for the "chop" of entry (or at least a copy of that page of it in your passport).
If you were in Hong Kong or somewhere else, when Chinese Immigration looks a the Z visa from New York or wherever, and the entry stamp into Hong Kong for the same period, you don't think that they might wonder?
If there is something that I am missing, please let us know.
NCL |
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letchluther
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I got the z visa from the visa service in america, the school processed my residence with no problem. |
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: Chop of Entry |
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| letchluther wrote: |
| I got the z visa from the visa service in america, the school processed my residence with no problem. |
When you attempt to renew this residence permit, that is if you stay for a second year, the PSB will go looking for the chop in your passport that corresponds to this visa. Still, to all readers on the board, this is one step that I would not recommend unless you really would enjoy learning the finer points of Article 25 of the Entry Regulations of the PRC. |
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eddy-cool
Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Going back to your home country is the option for those whose employer has not applied for a Foreign Expert Certificate; these employees will have to apply for a work visa in their back home, on the basis of an invitation letter.
Those whose employer did obtain an FEC can stay in-country; the FEC takes care of their legal requirements to get a new RP. |
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letchluther
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Considering nine other teachers at my school used this service and had no problems I find it unlikely. |
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: A Risk |
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| letchluther wrote: |
| Considering nine other teachers at my school used this service and had no problems I find it unlikely. |
Quite the risk and do you mean that your school is outprocessing to the States all of its Z visa requirements?
Maybe the other posters don't get it...maybe they do..
1. All entries and exits of foreigners into the PRC are computer-logged. Don't delude yourself that the police system is that third world.
2. When you make entry into the PRC, your entry is recorded. Eventually, and that is eventually but it does happen, when you are temporarily registered in a city or town, or when you are permanently registered in a city or town, those entries are cross-referenced against your file. In this manner, they are efficient but not rapidly so.
3. So all of the foreigners in your school who were here on questionable status forwarded their respective passports overseas where Z visas were secured? These passports were then returned to the PRC with no chop of entry in them, nor time in which to indicate starter date for the 30-day clock period on the Z visa, and then without a chop, without a stamp, without anything to prove that all of you made legal entry into the PRC on the current Z (as the previous one had expired), you simply remanded all of this documentation to the local PSB and secured one-year resident permits with no problems?
I just don't believe it and if it is true, something went under the table. And if you are caught with this kind of affair, it won't be an under the table reward for sure. |
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letchluther
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Hey NorthChina, save your doom and gloom.
I'm just saying it works and was a friendlier option than the high priced airfare back to the states.
Don't "delude" yourself into believing that just because my account here is new that I am a China newbie.
Questionable status?: You know what people say about others who ASSUME right? Everyone here is on a legal z visa.
God what a drama queen, get a life. |
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louis.p
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: Tainan, Taiwan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| letchluther wrote: |
I'm just saying it works and was a friendlier option than the high priced airfare back to the states.
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Seems a bit strange to me; the Chinese consulate in your home country can easily discover you are in China. NCL is correct as well: when you leave they will see a Z visa without an entry stamp. Lastly, if everything is entered into a database, your file will contain a blaring contradiction. |
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