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A_Canadian_Teacher
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Kuwait Run |
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I asked this before, but didn't get a lot of feedback. Long ago I signed on with a terrible organization in Kuwait. Suffice it to say, early into the contract and after I had received my civil id, I high tailed it out one night. Actually, it became so bad that I left because of illness on our winter break, and just never returned. I told the center I was ill and not coming back. I never heard anything abck from them. Now years later, I am being offered a job in another GCC country. My question is, will having not properly left Kuwait impact on me. Do GCC countries keep a shared database which if I accept this job, and my new employer goes to process my visa, taht I will apear on some sort of Kuwaiti black list? Or would it just be that I could never return to Kuwait...which... I honestly have no intention of ever doing....
Had I known of Dave's back in those days, i may not have accepted a job with such a group.... it seems I am one of the hoards who left this place on a whim...
All help greatly appreciated... |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Should be no problem... as long as you didn't also rob a bank or attack your students. Those are the people who get on blacklists. Absconders from Kuwait are a dime a dozen.
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NadiaK
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 206
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Never heard of it being a problem. Know of one or two cases where it has definitely *not* been a problem. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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... ahem...
present...
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NadiaK
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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...did it... no problems...
(as did nearly half of the small department for 3 years running till they "promoted" the director to a non-supervisory position)
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NadiaK
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, bit slow... . |
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rocketchild

Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 96
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: ME runners |
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ME runners -- as normal as breathing.
Hellish conditions, employers who cheat employees out of months of pay, housing, medical. falsely accuse staff of owing them money, utter despair and loneliness, etc...the list of reasons is so long.
There are new treaties in the GULF, very very new, in which countries now share information on absconders etc....
Just leaving like you did, no problem. But, if there were 'other' circumstances surrounding it, its hard to know what can happen.
Its all a part of the Arabs wanting to be more 'united' while they stab each other in the back, then us. Something to do with the PAN ARAB conferences....that is what I have been told.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Pan Arab ? The Arab League is a dead duck. It might be something trhat the GCC get up to. I think, though,
they have weightier matters to debate than how to punish absconding EFLers. |
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canadashirleyblue
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 162
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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A lot of Canadians have dual citizenship. Could you apply for the new visa under a different passport? |
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miski
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 298 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: |
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A similar problem with a friend of mine at the Kuwait Nasty Experience School....gave the correct notice but they refused to 'take notice of it'. Several months later they turn up at his door threatening to report him to the authorities. He also has the chance of coming in in September on a different passport, but I wonder about finger prints etc- you can change your passport and even the spelling of your name if it is in , say, Gaelic, but you can't change those little fingers. |
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canadashirleyblue
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Miski - someone I know who worked at the Kwick Intrance and Exit School resigned properly in the legal time frame. He was arrested at the airport several months later when he tried to leave for the xmas holidays and spent some time in jail. Is that school still around?
Anyway the poster is thinking of going to another gulf country. I wonder if they would be looking into the fingerprints unless something else in the application flagged it up on their radar? |
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15yearsinQ8
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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look people, the kuwa8it ministry of interior has a website also for civil id info
just run your old civil id number through the website and see if anything hits
technically YES it is possible to have someone 'blacklisted' from entry into all GCC countries if there is an outstanding court case or settlement against someone |
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Sleepwalker
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 454 Location: Reading the screen
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Slightly off topic I know but an acquaintance of mine was convicted of assault on an Arab - he paid compensation and was in jail for a few weeks.
He remained in the country of the offense and he's seen a note on the arrival/departures immigration screen so it's been officially logged.
He is now applying for other jobs in other ME countries - would a prospective employer have access to this? The offense is 3+ years ago.
I'm a bit worried as he's put me down as a character referee and I hope they ask the kind of questions that avoid this area of his past - I've told him I can't lie if asked directly and I think he should get out of the Gulf. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Sleepwalker wrote: |
He is now applying for other jobs in other ME countries - would a prospective employer have access to this? The offense is 3+ years ago. |
The employer does not, but every country requires a "security check" which is for exactly this type of situation. Yes, these countries do share this information. I don't know how they would judge such an offense, but if I were him, I would expect that it might stop him.
I know of at least 2 people who were barred from the next country, literally days before flying out and another who was refused a residence/work visa after arrival and had to leave immediately.
I would suggest that he be completely honest about it - and you too as a referent. No sense wasting an employer's and his own time for a job if he won't be able to pass the security check...
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