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		mandalayroad
 
 
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	  | Yes, but dining out in the States doesn't have to be extremely expensive. I go to an excellent Chinewse buffet for dinner, all you can eat, of course, and they have a LOT of choices...for $10. And there's so much more choice of foods even in Houston nowadays, than in Dubai. More choice in everything. The propaganda has it that Dubai is this new world city,but tall buildings, monstrously large malls and supersized Disney Worlds don't make a world city. Choices and prices in Dubai are unimpressive--especially housing prices. In Houston, a very pretty 2,000 sq.ft., four-bedroom house in the suburbs, with two-car garage, central everything, front and back yards, leafy neighborhood, can easily be bought for $150-160,000. Or a luxury apartment rented for $1000 or less. | 
	 
 
 
 
Yeah, but then we'd have to live in Texas...    | 
			 
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		mishmumkin
 
 
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				| Even living in the larger emirates I still have more disposable income for regular "nice" meals out. I'm comparing it with life in Seattle, which has a pretty high cost of living. While the cost of living in the UAE has risen, it's been my experience that the money still goes farther. | 
			 
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		globalnomad2
 
  
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				| Elmira, New York, out in the countryside near the Pennsylvania border, has plenty of big, beautiful old houses for $68,000. More remote areas of Maine are cheap too. I saw a "saltbox"  house for sale--ugly but new and worthy of rehabilitation--on 80 acres of meadow and forest for under $90,000...yes, that's including the acres. As for Houston, yes, I am from Connecticut, not Texas, but I have to say, at least Houston is very green and leafy. The downtown area has also improved. Were I to find some full-time college job there (community colleges pay well), I would vastly prefer it over anywhere in the Middle East. But then, I own two houses there, one of which is paid off and the rental income from which pays my apartment rent, so I wouldn't see much benefit in returning to the Gulf. Certainly not for the culture or environment. | 
			 
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		DesertStar
 
  
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	  but if you shop around and find where the locals buy food you can cut thost prices in half. 
 
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I beg to differ on this one, many locals pay top dirham   when they shop. 
 
 
As for food items, goods imported from Europe or the US can be quite expensive. International fast food chains are even more disgusting here that their counterparts in the US.
 
 
I'd be cautious when eating out, tiny restaurants or cafterias come with a risk! | 
			 
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		Mark100
 
 
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	  | Elmira, New York, out in the countryside near the Pennsylvania border, has plenty of big, beautiful old houses for $68,000. More remote areas of Maine are cheap too. I saw a "saltbox"  house for sale--ugly but new and worthy of rehabilitation--on 80 acres of meadow and forest for under $90,000...yes, that's including the acres. As for Houston, yes, I am from Connecticut, not Texas, but I have to say, at least Houston is very green and leafy. The downtown area has also improved. Were I to find some full-time college job there (community colleges pay well), I would vastly prefer it over anywhere in the Middle East. But then, I own two houses there, one of which is paid off and the rental income from which pays my apartment rent, so I wouldn't see much benefit in returning to the Gulf. Certainly not for the culture or environment. | 
	 
 
 
 
You can't buy a garage for that price in Australia.
 
 
About 450KUS will get you a very modest house in a not too affluent neighbourhood.
 
 
A decent house in a decent suburb in Australia and you are looking at 1million up. | 
			 
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		veiledsentiments
 
  
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				He's not talking about buying in a city that is big enough to have something called a suburb - which would be closer to the prices you are talking about - or more.
 
 
He is talking about an old small town in an area that suffers from a lack of work opportunities.  Also true of rural areas.  They are places that you retire and can live modestly.
 
 
So, you're comparing apples and oranges... a more proper comparison would probably be a dusty town in the outback.  (comparable as to opportunities and price)
 
 
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		globalnomad2
 
  
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				True, VS. but I just said you can get a 2,000 sq. ft house in the huge city of Houston for $150K, and that is comparing apples with apples. As I mentioned, Houston a lot nicer to live in than the stereotype would suggest. 
 
 
The Youngstown, Ohio area has over 500 listings of houses under $75,000. Many of them are quite nice, in the usual leafy, pleasant streets. Youngstown is a Rust Belt city, no arguments there. I look at these places for retirement. Sell my house in Houston and then get two forthe price of one (if I wanted to rent one out) in Elmira or Youngstown. (At least YT has a large state university, and Elmira has a beautiful small liberal arts college--a little culture and vitality) | 
			 
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