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Modest Mouse
Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 28 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: Is there a teacher blacklist in Japan? |
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Is there a teacher blacklist in Japan?
(For teachers' names to be put on in case they break a contract or make an employer mad, which would prevent them from getting another job in Japan.) |
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nawlinsgurl

Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 363 Location: Kanagawa and feeling Ok....
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Serious doubt it. But then again there are sites where ppl can make death threats and suicide pacts sites...so maybe...  |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: |
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There may be one between certain employers, but it's likely to be all in Japanese. Why are you worried, if I may ask?
Most employers probably don't talk to each other anyway. |
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Mapleblondie
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 93 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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If you are wondering about it because you have taught in Korea and know that THAT country has one, take comfort in knowing Japan is quite a different country. As far as I know, Japan doesn't have a blacklist...but then again, with all the foreigners currently in Japan, I think you'd have to do something REALLY bad to be "marked" in any sense. I've only ever heard of teachers losing their jobs because they came unprepared or didn't show up on time/regularly, etc. |
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Khyron
Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Tokyo Metro City
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I seriously doubt it. Unlike in Korea, WE are the owners of our work visas (well, technically immigration is... but that's not the point). In Korea, your boss has control of you, but in Japan... you have freedom. Freedom to change your job at will, freedom to teach privates without fear of being arrested, freedom to work multiple jobs, and so on.
Your employer sponsors your visa, and that's about it. I don't think they have any pull at immigration at all. Sparkling Japan!
If you want to get banned from Japan, you have to break some serious laws. Winners don't do drugs. |
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a teacher blacklist in Japan? |
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Modest Mouse wrote: |
Is there a teacher blacklist in Japan? |
Yes. I have a copy in a drawer in my desk at work. PM me with your monetary offer and if it's acceptable, I'll fax you a copy. |
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stevenbhow
Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 58
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: comments |
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I doubt there is any thing like an official blacklist, but in smaller cities where nearly everyone in the English teaching community knows everyone else word of mouth travels a long way. I've seen some people effectively get blacklisted for joining the union, threating lawsuits, or breaking their contract. It doesn't mean that you won't be able to find a job, but it will be very difficult to get hired by the better paying schools. Creating the right image for yourself seems to be the most important thing here. Intellegence, teaching skills, and common sense are often of secondary importance. |
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Modest Mouse
Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 28 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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So what I'm hearing is a collective NO.
Thanks for your input! |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Do you know how long that list would be???? haha! |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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I only know of the university blacklist. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:52 am Post subject: |
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I just noticed that your in BKK. You have to keep in mind that ESL industry is huge in Japan compared to Thailand. There is no physical way for schools to keep track of dodgy teachers. Even at the University level I think this is true. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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no, I meant the list of universities that aren't good to work for.
It is from Debito, the activist. |
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AgentMulderUK

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 360 Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Some Companies certainly seem to keep blacklists.
Shane is one. I turned them down 3 times over the last 5 yeats for various reasons. After that I applied for a quite convenient PT position and was told "You have turned us down too many times so we cannot employ you"
Fair point really.
In retrospect, I was lucky.
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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AgentMulderUK wrote: |
Some Companies certainly seem to keep blacklists.
Shane is one. I turned them down 3 times over the last 5 yeats for various reasons. After that I applied for a quite convenient PT position and was told "You have turned us down too many times so we cannot employ you"
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You applied 3 times and turned them down each time? Is this normal behavior?
If it were my company, I wouldn't let you in the door to use the bathroom.  |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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I must admit that even though I'm sure you had your reasons for turning them down after applying, it's not really surprising that a company would think you were a bit of a time-waster after it happened 3 times. |
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