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		dixie
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject:  | 
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One reason: FM-3 processing times are taking forever right now. At least in DF. I know a teacher at Wall Street that has been waiting for seven months, another friend for over four months...
 
 
Sucks if you want to change jobs or move. | 
	 
 
 
 
It took 7 weeks for mine to be issued, and then I had to wait another 6 weeks before it was available for pick-up at Migraci�n, and this was using the services of a really reliable immigration lawyer! | 
	 
 
 
 
Could that have anything to do with the lawyer wanting to make only one trip down there?  So that the extra wait time (which seems weird to me) was due to the fact that he was waiting for other clients to be finished with their process as well, and take you all down at once? | 
			 
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		notamiss
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject:  | 
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				The regulations have changed, apparently. http://mexfiles.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/another-excuse-out-the-window/
 
 
Blogger Richard G. writes:
 
 
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	  Illegal aliens are now subject to a fine of twenty to one hundred days the Federal District�s salario minimo (from about one hundred to five hundred U.S. dollars). The provisions in the code for locking people up just for being in the country without the right papers are gone.
 
 
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Ironically, there may be more prosecutions of gringo illegals as a result of the reforms. A lot of people work who are on tourist visas (like I did), or have residency permits, but not a work visa. I get the feeling Immigration generally ignored these people just because it was a hassle to arrest and charge them. Since it�s only a fine now, I expect there will be more prosecutions. | 
	 
 
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		MO39
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject:  | 
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It took 7 weeks for mine to be issued, and then I had to wait another 6 weeks before it was available for pick-up at Migraci�n, and this was using the services of a really reliable immigration lawyer! | 
	 
 
 
 
 
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	  | Could that have anything to do with the lawyer wanting to make only one trip down there?  So that the extra wait time (which seems weird to me) was due to the fact that he was waiting for other clients to be finished with their process as well, and take you all down at once? | 
	 
 
 
 
 
I didn't have to wait all that extra time because my lawyer was waiting for several FM3s to be ready to be picked up. (After all, his office is around the corner from Migraci�n.) And since I still owed him half his fee, payable when I finally took possession of my visa, he had no incentive to postpone taking me to Migraci�n to get it.  This seems to be part of the process and has happened to friends of mine here. The visa is issued, but then they have to go through lots of other bureaucratic rigamarole at Migraci�n, like checking on the authenticity of signatures, before it is ready to be handed over to you. | 
			 
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		ls650
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  Let's ask the question this way:  what is the probability of being caught and deported for teaching illegally?
 
 
Fill in the blank:  Out of every 100 illegal English teachers, _______________ are caught. | 
	 
 
 
Depends where you work, I imagine.  Where I taught, there were fewer than 100 ex-pats in the entire zone, so any foreigners teaching illegally at the two local schools were easily found.  
 
 
Now, in a large urban centre, maybe you are a lot less easily caught...  I can't comment on that. | 
			 
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		FilCan
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: FM3 question | 
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				hi,
 
i have fm3 but as a dependent to my husband.  this would be the 3rd year im on it.  im changing it so i can work.  i finally got a job this week, but my fm3 is expiring next week, and i haven't been able to collect money to process my other fm3 (until after july 1st).  i know they would fine be for filing it late (they already did last year).  the question is, can is still work while they're processing my fm3 work visa?? i believe it takes 30 days here in puebla...and i will be starting work Aug 18.  
 
 
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		Samantha
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Has the school agreed to pay for your work permission?  I suggest that you gather what you need from the school, and take it all in to Immigation before your expiry date.   You aren't supposed to work until you have the FM3 in hand, but it depends how sticky they are in your area as to whether they would check on you or not.  Alot depends on the relationship the school has with them.  Good luck...let us know how it goes. | 
			 
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		FilCan
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I went to immigration about 3 weeks ago to get information and they said i could forward my papers 5 days before it expires.  They gave me this paper entitled "Cambio o Ampliacion de actividades y/o de empleador en la calidad de no inmigrante".  I guess they would just put on my current FM3 that I'm adding an "activity"...
 
 
I'm just a little confused as to which one corresponds to my situation:
 
 
1. En el caso de cambio de actividades con el mismo empleador....
 
 
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2.  En el caso de cambio o ampliacion de actividad independiente
 
 
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3.  En el caso de cambio de empleador
 
 
I believe it's #2.  what do you think?
 
 
I worked in a private school about 2 years ago with FM3 dependent visa and i didn't get caught.  I just don't want to take the risk  now that I have a daughter. I dont want to get deported!    | 
			 
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		Prof.Gringo
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  I went to immigration about 3 weeks ago to get information and they said i could forward my papers 5 days before it expires.  They gave me this paper entitled "Cambio o Ampliacion de actividades y/o de empleador en la calidad de no inmigrante".  I guess they would just put on my current FM3 that I'm adding an "activity"...
 
 
I'm just a little confused as to which one corresponds to my situation:
 
 
1. En el caso de cambio de actividades con el mismo empleador....
 
 
OR
 
 
2.  En el caso de cambio o ampliacion de actividad independiente
 
 
OR
 
 
3.  En el caso de cambio de empleador
 
 
I believe it's #2.  what do you think?
 
 
I worked in a private school about 2 years ago with FM3 dependent visa and i didn't get caught.  I just don't want to take the risk  now that I have a daughter. I dont want to get deported!    | 
	 
 
 
 
Yes, I think it's option #2.
 
 
I also don't see INM deporting you if you got caught, if you have a Mexican husband and child... They might make you stop working or levy a fine, but I doubt they would deport you. 
 
 
BTW I thought that after two years of marriage to a Mexican you can apply for citizenship? Have you checked into that? | 
			 
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		FilCan
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | BTW I thought that after two years of marriage to a Mexican you can apply for citizenship? Have you checked into that? | 
	 
 
 
 
Actually I haven't.  I didn't even know this until you brought it up.  I thought I needed to be living here for 5 years straight before I can apply for citizenship.  Thanks.  I will look into this maybe this would the best way for me to go. | 
			 
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		Samantha
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| You will still need to have your FM3 or FM2 in place even if you choose to apply for naturalization.  The whole process for naturalization takes at least two years now, and includes the dreaded test.  No longer is it possible to apply from a 5 year FM3.  The rules have been interpreted in a different way, as of a few months ago.    Those planning to naturalize who are not married to Mexicans or do not have a Mexican baby need to be on an FM2 first. | 
			 
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		notamiss
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | I went to immigration about 3 weeks ago to get information and they said i could forward my papers 5 days before it expires.   | 
	 
 
 
 
My guess is #2, too. A word of warning; note that the "5 days" most likely meant "5 d�as h�biles, in other words, one week. | 
			 
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		EverReady
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | You will still need to have your FM3 or FM2 in place even if you choose to apply for naturalization.  The whole process for naturalization takes at least two years now, and includes the dreaded test.  | 
	 
 
 
 
Isn't the "dreaded test" so simple that anyone could pass it? | 
			 
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		MO39
 
  
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	  | You will still need to have your FM3 or FM2 in place even if you choose to apply for naturalization.  The whole process for naturalization takes at least two years now, and includes the dreaded test.  | 
	 
 
 
 
Isn't the "dreaded test" so simple that anyone could pass it? | 
	 
 
 
 
Not unless you've done your homework.  Check out this recent thread:
 
 
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=64541 | 
			 
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		EverReady
 
 
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				| Yeah, I saw that.  One hundred questions?  Cmon, that's a couple of hours of study even if you didn't know one answer on the exam,  and I knew the answer to about 90 of them off the top of my head.  It's not difficult, about as hard as passing a DMV exam or something in the States. | 
			 
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		notamiss
 
  
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