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Working on an F or X Visa.

 
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iYgS



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Working on an F or X Visa. Reply with quote

Hey guys.

In about a year I'll have to travel to China to complete my diploma. I already have a degree and a CELTA and have been working as an English teacher for a while now. My question is the legality / possibility regarding working in China whilst there to study.

I'm not sure how long I'd be there, I was told one semester so I doubt it'd be much longer (if at all) than 6 months.
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mike w



Joined: 26 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working on an F visa (ie being paid by a Chinese employer) is illegal.
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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but many thousands of people do indeed work on F visa's and experience no problems at all.
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Moon Over Parma



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickpellatt wrote:
but many thousands of people do indeed work on F visa's and experience no problems at all.


I think the olympic security measures helped to thin that herd a bit. Incidentally, are there any language center teachers in Wenzhou, Zhejiang province who aren't working on an F visa? Outside of those working in universities I've yet to meet a FT who living there that had an actual Z visa and residence permit. Web English are big frauds on that front.
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that uncommon for students to pick up some work but it's not legal so if you're caught you're caught. Penalty? Who knows? Depends where you are and the amount of influence you can muster.
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samhouston



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Incidentally, are there any language center teachers in Wenzhou, Zhejiang province who aren't working on an F visa? Outside of those working in universities I've yet to meet a FT who living there that had an actual Z visa and residence permit.


Sure, I have a Z/RP. And since it's all printed in Chinese, I will always claim ignorance if anyone comes snooping. Not that that would do me any good...
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Moon Over Parma



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samhouston wrote:


Sure, I have a Z/RP. And since it's all printed in Chinese, I will always claim ignorance if anyone comes snooping. Not that that would do me any good...


Sam, you are part of the "few" I know of, but you're not working for Web. I have yet to meet a Web FT from that city with a legit visa.
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andrew_gz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike w wrote:
Working on an F visa (ie being paid by a Chinese employer) is illegal.


Hahaha...
And your point is?
Fact is, more folks have worked and do work on F visas than Z visas. (and if you throw in L visas and X visas it's a blow-out)
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mike w



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hahaha...


You may find it amusing, but there are many who have fallen foul of the stringent application of visa rules in