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macedonianmike
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 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:29 am Post subject: Independently getting Russian Visa |
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I've seen a bunch of advertisment on places like waytorussia.net that offer to get you a business visa for up to a year. Does anyone have any experience with these or know of anyone who has? Another question: if you get, for example, a 1 yr busniess visa through one of these companies is it possible to renew the visa after that period?
Last time I went, I had the school take care of the visa for me. This was convienient but also required me to do the majority of my hours with them. Next time I'd like to not be obligated to work for any one school. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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Location: Cyprus
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: The rules have changed,unfortunately... |
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| Last year they introduced a maximum 30 days continuous stay followed by a minimum of 30 days abroad for persons on business visas,ostensibly to align themselves with Schengen practices,but effectively to stop people from using these visas as a way to stay in Russia and work illegally for up to six months at a time,usually without paying tax either as many of us conveniently used to do!Language schools now have to issue teachers with work permits instead and although these allow up to 12 months continuous stay they are only valid for the specified employer and cannot usually be amended.Because of all the bureaucracy and the tax liabilities involved etc,not many firms will apply for them and those who do tend to be the few larger ones such as the notorious BKC and LL who we all wish to avoid because of their 'Macdonalds' conditions with very low wages etc!There are a few better ones and if you p.m. me I can give you a few leads.Especially if you are planning on going to Moscow and haven't been there recently,I would also warn you that the cost of living has risen considerably and the price of accomodation is becoming astronomical while wages have not kept pace with inflation which is now estimated at around 15% in Russia and still rising. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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Location: Moscow
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: The rules have changed,unfortunately... |
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| maruss wrote: |
| Last year they introduced a maximum 30 days continuous stay followed by a minimum of 30 days abroad for persons on business visas,ostensibly to align themselves with Schengen practices,but effectively to stop people from using these visas as a way to stay in Russia and work illegally for up to six months at a time,usually without paying tax either as many of us conveniently used to do!Language schools now have to issue teachers with work permits instead and although these allow up to 12 months continuous stay they are only valid for the specified employer and cannot usually be amended.Because of all the bureaucracy and the tax liabilities involved etc,not many firms will apply for them and those who do tend to be the few larger ones such as the notorious BKC and LL who we all wish to avoid because of their 'Macdonalds' conditions with very low wages etc!There are a few better ones and if you p.m. me I can give you a few leads.Especially if you are planning on going to Moscow and haven't been there recently,I would also warn you that the cost of living has risen considerably and the price of accomodation is becoming astronomical while wages have not kept pace with inflation which is now estimated at around 15% in Russia and still rising. |
Maruss, rather than the PM, why not inform all here. Those school contacts you have, do they offer the full package of telephone interview in yoour own country, a contract before you arrive, and all expenses paid for such as travel costs including a return flight, accomadation, etc etc.,
Because some of these higher paid jobs can look deceiving, especially if they can't offer the whole expensive package.
I still say it's the McD schools for the newbies such as LL or BKC if you have a CELTA or equivelent. Later if you are still keen, you can progress from there. Forget English First,
Newbies click here and give us your comments.
http://jobs.languagelink.ru/jobs/ |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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Location: Moscow
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Independently getting Russian Visa |
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| macedonianmike wrote: |
I've seen a bunch of advertisment on places like waytorussia.net that offer to get you a business visa for up to a year. Does anyone have any experience with these or know of anyone who has? Another question: if you get, for example, a 1 yr busniess visa through one of these companies is it possible to renew the visa after that period?
Last time I went, I had the school take care of the visa for me. This was convienient but also required me to do the majority of my hours with them. Next time I'd like to not be obligated to work for any one school. |
Another way is to get temporary residency permit, of course it's easier to do if you are married to a Russian. Then register for at your local Russian tax office for entrepeneurs licinse. That will allow you to legally work as a self employed teacher. And no problems in regards to becoming a freelancer with various schools. You should expect the income to be much higher than an employed contract.
Of course a year later you can apply for permanent residency, and then you won't need a work permit at all. You can then choose whichever employer you wish. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 1145
Location: Cyprus
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: Once again,Bels is right,bless him! |
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Listen to this guy everyone-and Rusmeister,for free as they give the best advice on working as an e.f.l. teacher in Russia.
It is true that if you want to go there and earn a decent hourly rate it will cost you because the firms that pay it do not usually cover flights or accom. although they will arrange your legal work permit.So you either go for the cheap option with the Macdonalds outfits and suffer the consequences or pay up-front with the hope you might be able to recover your outlay gradually if you are able to get enough hours.
But as for getting a temporary residence permit and enterpreneurs licence yourself,better ask him! |
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