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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
I understand feeling frustrated, koot. It's true that not everybody can teach, yet many seem to think that they should tell teachers how to do their jobs.

But I see my job, in Ecuador at least, as being much deeper than just teaching English. Many students who come to me with a very basic level have had more than a decade of English instruction. THey have very clear ideas about what an English classroom should be like, yet, demonstrably, it doesn't work.

Best,
Justin


If their previous language classes haven't worked, then I would think that they'd be open to new approaches. I asked one prospective student what his (unsuccessful) classes at a private institute had been like, for example, had the class been given mostly in English or Spanish? When he told me that maybe 70% of the time the teacher had used Spanish in class (oh, my God!), this gave me an opening to explain my philosophy of using Spanish as a last resort. After his unhappy experience at his last school, he was open to new ideas and accepted my mostly monolingual approach quite readily.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm too tired to be willing to share. I just want them to let me do my job. That's what they pay for, anyway Wink
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just want them to let me do my job. That's what they pay for, anyway


Agreed! But isn't part of your job teaching them how to learn English?


Best,
Jsutin
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She' wants him to go halfway into the year of first grade and he's only five. That's the problem and the fact that he should have become fluent after a month of English.

I teach him daily for about 45 minutes. Daily homework is given.

I've come up with a basic curcciulum, based off of www.mes-english.com and also www.everythingpreschool.com so I'm doing sentences, vocab and some "projects" like making get well cards, count downs for Xmas, etc.

I think he's made real progress , so it really bugs me when his mom's like this. He sits and listens to a story and tries to make converstaion instead of stikcing his feet in my face.

Thanks for all the advice

Oh, and he's only been learning English for two months! The mom's impossible.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
She' wants him to go halfway into the year of first grade and he's only five. That's the problem and the fact that he should have become fluent after a month of English.

Oh, and he's only been learning English for two months! The mom's impossible.


Has the mother ever studied English? Did she become fluent in a month?

I congratulate you on your perseverance with this aggravating woman. I'm glad she isn't my mother!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She-s studied. Not fluent or far from it. At this momemnt in time, I can-t be picky.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
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I just want them to let me do my job. That's what they pay for, anyway


Agreed! But isn't part of your job teaching them how to learn English?


Best,
Jsutin


Agreed. But that doesn't involve lecturing on what this or that method is. I give tips on how to improve and sustain learning but not detailed accounts of my methods.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One reason for possible tension between parents and teachers is the lack (or perceived lack) of quality and/or organized materials. (I know that a syllabus should always be developing and being tweaked, but even experienced teachers often don't have things sufficiently organized. It would be a bit like going to a car dealer and being assured that all those scrapheap parts will somehow be transformed into a gleaming racer). Is there too much cobbling together and not enough proper design going on in TESL? Surprised Confused Laughing Wink Cool Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote