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Schools that sponsor DELTA or MA's

 
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travelgoddess



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Schools that sponsor DELTA or MA's Reply with quote

I am rapidly approaching the end of my 3rd year teaching EFL and have finally admitted that I DO in fact like teaching (quite a bit!) This fact and my insatiable hunger for more info leads to be believe by the time I finish my current year long contract (I am 1/2 way through) I will be itching for a meatier job.

I have so far worked in Taiwan teaching kids in a Bushiban (night school), as a cover teaching in San Francisco, CA, USA at a small, private language school and in Vietnam at a big language school teaching kids, teens, Business English, adult General English (the majority of my classes), Academic English and now a TOEFL class.

I have been doing research on what the Delta versus MA issue and think I am more than comfortable getting my DELTA now and maybe an MA later.

Thus, now the funding issue is at hand.

I have heard that some schools sponsor teachers for the DELTA, with a long term commitment made to the school during or after the program. I would be more than thrilled to find a good school that does so, and would love feedback from people who have done this.

Looking at the centers where the DELTA is offered, I have to say that Turkey, Vietnam, and Spain (Turkey and Spain for my general curiosity/interest in the culture and Vietnam due my familiarity with the country and low cost of living) are tops of my list, but I am rather flexible on where to do this program, assuming the above sponsorship would happen.

Appreciate your feedback on this issue.

Steph
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Marcoregano



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll be lucky to find an employer that sponsors the DELTA or - even more so - a Masters. The only school I know of that strongly encourages its teachers to take the DELTA is the British Council. But, although it's possible to take the DELTA at some British Council institutes, I don't think they actually sponsor teachers to take it.
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travelgoddess



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are at least 2. I have a friend in the Czech Rep who is starting soon and my CELTA trainer was sponsored for hers, but I dont remember where hers was.

Steph
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at EF in Istanbul and a few teachers here have done the DELTA and the school pays them back for it over the following two years of teaching for them. I had considered taking them up on the offer but an MA is more in line with what I want (am currently an ADoS and DONT want to be a DOS, which is where deltas seem to lead- I did that for 3 months covering for our current DOs on maternity leave and it nearly drove me to exhaustion!!!!!).
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zorro (3)



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

British Council sponsor DELTAs. I'm not sure if all centres do, but the larger ones certainly do - HK and KL are the two that I know of.

They pay for the first two week (induction? I can't remember what it's called), half of the course up front and would take the payment for the other half from your monthly salary over a year. If you then renew your contract, they will pay you back for everything.

The problem with this is that it's a distance DELTA and you would be expected to continue teaching at the same time. They will give you three hours down on your timetable meaning that your contact hours would be 21 instead of 24.

I know people who have done it like this and I didn't see them for 9 months!

Good luck.
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DrVanNostrand



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, how does one become an aDoS and a DoS and what is the pay like at those positions?
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just curious, how does one become an aDoS and a DoS and what is the pay like at those positions?



In Latin America, it's mostly a game of "last man standing". If you stick around long enough, you get to be promoted. Quals help more in the big chains- in individual schools, it tends to be a question of having taught there long enough for them to get a feel for you.

Officially, my title is "Director of English Programs," rather than DOS; I think this is because I'm administrative as well as academic.

Pay tends to be 40% to 60% higher than teaching in a comparable organisation. Beware of places where it's more than that- this usually means that you're in charge of exploiting teachers, and it wouldn't be a lot of fun.

Honestly, it may be different in other countries, but here's my take. I've been director for almost four years. I have learned a lot, been able to take the department the direction I wanted to, built my resume incredibly, designed a lot of specialized programs, got a post-grad teacher training qualification paid for, and paid for my masters out of the increased pay. Obviously, I can't say I regret it! On the other hand, probably 6 days out of 10, I work more than 10 hours. My phone can ring at ANY time. By Friday, I'm usually so tired I can barely stand.

I would not have missed this. It's been massively educational, and good for my career on a thousand levels. But I will NOT do it again.

My next job, whenver it seems like time to go, will be either teacher training or straight classroom teaching. Anything that involves budget responsibilities will be a deal breaker.


Best,
Justin
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check with some British insistutees. The main one here sponsor a DELTA, but you have to work for slave wages for two years first. YOu'd be better off working at a place where you get paid well and then pay for the DELTA yourself.
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DrVanNostrand



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response, Justin.
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Sansibar1



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Bilkent University in Ankara? Them seem to sponsor both if you go for the mid-career path. Only problem, it's a four year commitment.
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travelgoddess



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:15 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Great, great info.

I am not opposed to paying for it myself, but since I will be staying put while doing the DELTA, it seems more financially logical to get some funding for it by my employer. Totally understand about being insanely busy during, I am a glutton for punishment that way.

Thanks for all the great info, have a place to start my research.

I look forward to more info. Like I said before, I saw a lot of info on Dave's about the DELTA versus an MA in TESOL but no info on the funding, so I hope this post can help, well, myself but also others who plan to do this in the future also.

Smile

Steph
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alexcase



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, if the school trains people for the DELTA the chances of getting help to do it (there) are higher. For example, I think some International House schools help you out, though the fact that they don't pay back 100% and therefore you end up paying your own employer is a bit cheeky

TEFLtastic blog- www.tefl.net/alexcase
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