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aliaeli
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 46
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: The Independent Work Visa rehashed |
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I just talked to my novice migrations lawyer friend and he pretty much told me it was impossible to get an independent visa. I told him that I have degrees to teach English to speakers of other languages, but he said that if it doesn't say specifically teaching English to Spanish speakers it could take months to convince migrations to give me the independent visa. He said that I should find a language institute and get my FM3 that way, but I really don't want to be tied down that way.
Is it really next to impossible to get the independent visa in D.F.? I really do have good and legitamate creditentials to teach English. Should I find another lawyer? How long should the process take? |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Your lawyer friend must really be a novice because he doesn't know what he's talking about. As long as your degree is in TESOL, you will have no trouble at all getting your FM3 "independiente" (as we call it here, because the real name is a bit clunky ). The lawyer I used told me that as long your degree has the word "English" in it somewhere, that's all that Migraci�n needs to see. PM me, if you like, and I'll gladly give you his name and contact information. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't live in D.F. but I do have an FM2 Independiente. The process was simple and the paperwork minimal. I don't know why you'd need a lawyer. Talk to migracion instead, it's really not that complicated. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have an FM2 independiente even though my academic credentials don't relate directly to the activity I'm authorized for. It is possible. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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TheLongWayHome wrote: |
I don't live in D.F. but I do have an FM2 Independiente. The process was simple and the paperwork minimal. I don't know why you'd need a lawyer. Talk to migracion instead, it's really not that complicated. |
I second that. There is nothing a lawyer can do that you can't do yourself, unless your Spanish is bad, in which case take a good bilingual friend with you, preferably Mexican. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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I used a lawyer because none of my "pieces of paper" (aka degrees) had anything to do with teaching English. Also, I had no desire to make multiple trips to Migraci�n. If these two things do not apply in your case, then you could apply for the FM3 on your own, as Phil_K and TLWH did. |
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thelmadatter
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1212 Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: independiente |
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I thought an FM2/3 independiente meant that you were more or less self-employed (working on honorarios) and that you didnt have to go back to Migra for every little job you were doing. Like for people who work a couple of hours a week at several differnt places and/or working temporary gigs. But a friend of mine who has one of these says you do have to report to Migra every plce you work. What's the deal? |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps it depends on whether you're working "for" a place as an independent contractor (freelance) (no reporting) or employee (reporting). |
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aliaeli
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 46
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all for the replies. I will attempt to take care of it myself  |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Remember that the first time you visit Migraci�n, you'll be given a print-out listing all the documents you'll need to present the second time you show up, along with the various fees involved.
Good luck and let us know how it goes for you!  |
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aliaeli
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 46
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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And furthermore,
I know I am an idealist and optomist( (elsewise I wouldn't be here), and I know that the govt. really likes their redtape and all, but I really couldn't picture them arguing with me about whether or not I was competent to teach in Mexico because my credentials say "to speakers of other languages" and not "to Spanish speakers".
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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aliaeli wrote: |
And furthermore,
I know I am an idealist and optomist( (elsewise I wouldn't be here), and I know that the govt. really likes their redtape and all, but I really couldn't picture them arguing with me about whether or not I was competent to teach in Mexico because my credentials say "to speakers of other languages" and not "to Spanish speakers".
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In theory, I agree with you, but in practice it all comes down to which government paper-pusher is assigned to your case, doesn't it?  |
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