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Questions to ask a school during a job interview?

 
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KarenMarie



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:46 pm    Post subject: Questions to ask a school during a job interview? Reply with quote

I'm new to this. What do I actually want to know about a school before accepting a teaching position? I haven't held a teaching job before, so I am not sure what I need to know.

Basically, I just want to work for a school that treats their teachers fairly. I can deal with pretty much anything as long as I feel my employer is doing it for the right reasons.

Yes. I'm naive. I know. Confused
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gerard



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems to be impossible to answer without knowing what country you are talking about. There are things I ask in Asia I would never ask in an interview in the West.

What are you expected to teach and how??
Can you use your own material.
How can you discipline bad students?

In Asia you need to ask about things like work visas. Money questions are unaccable during an interview at home (I think) but in Asia you must make things clear.

Will you pay for a work visa?
Will I work illegally waiting for it?
What about overtime?

And ask about accommadations. In 3 years in Asia I really have not had an interview as such thank God. It tends to be they offer me the job based on my resume and a phone conversation or they do not.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerard wrote:
This seems to be impossible to answer without knowing what country you are talking about. There are things I ask in Asia I would never ask in an interview in the West.

What are you expected to teach and how??
Can you use your own material.
How can you discipline bad students?

In Asia you need to ask about things like work visas. Money questions are unaccable during an interview at home (I think) but in Asia you must make things clear.

Will you pay for a work visa?
Will I work illegally waiting for it?
What about overtime?

And ask about accommadations. In 3 years in Asia I really have not had an interview as such thank God. It tends to be they offer me the job based on my resume and a phone conversation or they do not.


Thanks, Gerard. I'm applying to schools in Japan. I posted this thread in that forum, too. Embarassed I'll cut n paste the rest of what I wrote there here.

I'm just going to brainstorm here. Help me if you can.

Here's what I would say if I didn't care about offending the interviewer and could expect honest answers:

1. Am I going to learn how to be a good teacher here? Are you concerned with providing your students with quality education above all else? Or do you just want to entertain them and take their money?

How concerned are you with helping me develop my skills as a teacher? Will you be receptive when I come to you for advice? Will you take the time to explain to me how I should deal with specific problems for the sake of helping me help your students? If you're going to throw me in a classroom, say "sink or swim", and yell at me for being incompetent when I come to you for advice: please, tell me now.



2. Are you, or any other school personnel, going to try to date me? Will I be penalized, or made to feel uncomfortable, for having a personal policy of NEVER dating my co-workers?

3. Are you rational? Can I trust you? Are you going to take advantage of my inexperience and naivete? Do you treat your employees with respect?

4. Money/benefits: I expect that my living accomodations will be cold, cramped, inconveniently located, and equipped with a toilet I don't understand. I expect that I won't be able to save any money at all, and that shopping for pleasure will be a thing of the past. This is okay. However: are there any expenses you are hiding from me? Please, no nasty surprises.

5. What do you want from me? REALLY. Just tell me up front, so if I don't think I can fulfill your expectations, I can tell you so. Please don't set me up for a year of misery. Be honest.

Please advise me.




Idea Gerard,
Thank you for mentioning to ask how students are disciplined. I hadn't even thought about asking about that.
What would I do without this board?
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KarenMarie, as you are asking about Japan, I'll lean towards that side of things. Firstly, there are relatively few outfits worldwide that are overly concerned about you, especially as a newcomer, being a professional teacher. It is lamentable but that is the way it is. You may even scare some interviewers with this question as they realise that you may be difficult to please if you take the job. However, if you are not willing to compromise your approach to education, it is a vital question to ask. Just be willing to look that much harder for an employer who actually has this approach.

However, as far as Japan goes, you can virtually kiss this goodbye. It's money money money here. Sure, at university level etc you can probably find work that is professional-sh (within the boundaries of what Japanese education is all about) but as a newcomer you will almost certainly be working in the eikaiwa (conversation school) scene and there, it's all about keeping them happy week after week.

So basically, they will pretty much leave you to yourself in the classroom, or alternatively give you a method which is virtually unworkable. They won't yell at you but then they won't do much when you come to them for advice except say, "Well, do what you think is best." You are the teacher after all.

So much like experience of counterfeit money will help you spot a real one better, teaching in Japan will help you become a better teacher by giving you a clear understanding of what good teaching isn't IMO.

Forgive me but the question "Are you rational?" is a red flag to me. You are going overseas. What is rational to you is way off base to someone in another culture. You are going to have to let loose some preconceptions about the way life "should" be and how people "ought" to deal with things. This particularly applies, I think , if you come to Japan which seems so western but is actually almost the polar opposite.

Basically, when you land on foreign shores, life will be very very different from how you imagined it no matter how many qeustions you have asked and answers you have got. That is what makes it foreign. You cannot expect people in a foreign culture to adapt themselves to you too much. In the end, you have to let yourself be changed to succeed abroad. But, although this can scare the heck out of any of us at times, that is what makes it so worthwhile.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to research the society in which you want to survive as a teacher for a while; once you know their mores and taboos you can post such questions; like shmooj I was a bit surprised you should use the word "rational" in a question to your Japanese employers!

Also, I doubt you can take up their time discussing educational aspects or cultural differences; these guys usually are focused on their job, and they aren't aware of your particular needs. They expect you to fit in their school.

I guess you can broach questions like:
- WOrk load, class size and subject matter;
- accommodation and remunerations;
- your rights and duties, arbitration, penalty clause in contract.

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KarenMarie



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj wrote:
KarenMarie, as you are asking about Japan, I'll lean towards that side of things. Firstly, there are relatively few outfits worldwide that are overly concerned about you, especially as a newcomer, being a professional teacher. It is lamentable but that is the way it is. You may even scare some interviewers with this question as they realise that you may be difficult to please if you take the job. However, if you are not willing to compromise your approach to education, it is a vital question to ask. Just be willing to look that much harder for an employer who actually has this approach.

However, as far as Japan goes, you can virtually kiss this goodbye. It's money money money here. Sure, at university level etc you can probably find work that is professional-sh (within the boundaries of what Japanese education is all about) but as a newcomer you will almost certainly be working in the eikaiwa (conversation school) scene and there, it's all about keeping them happy week after week.

So basically, they will pretty much leave you to yourself in the classroom, or alternatively give you a method which is virtually unworkable. They won't yell at you but then they won't do much when you come to them for advice except say, "Well, do what you think is best." You are the teacher after all.

So much like experience of counterfeit money will help you spot a real one better, teaching in Japan will help you become a better teacher by giving you a clear understanding of what good teaching isn't IMO.

Forgive me but the question "Are you rational?" is a red flag to me. You are going overseas. What is rational to you is way off base to someone in another culture. You are going to have to let loose some preconceptions about the way life "should" be and how people "ought" to deal with things. This particularly applies, I think , if you come to Japan which seems so western but is actually almost the polar opposite.

Basically, when you land on foreign shores, life will be very very different from how you imagined it no matter how many qeustions you have asked and answers you have got. That is what makes it foreign. You cannot expect people in a foreign culture to adapt themselves to you too much. In the end, you have to let yourself be changed to succeed abroad. But, although this can scare the heck out of any of us at times, that is what makes it so worthwhile.


Thank you.
You do realize I mentioned that I was brainstorming, right?
I would never, ever ask those questions the way I phrased them here. My point was to state bluntly what I really want to know.

Thank you. I'm pretty well prepared for my first job to be a pain in the *&^%, but I'd like it to be as small a pain as possible.

Sadder but wiser, I guess. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a pain in the axxx? Well, let's just say that if you arrive presuming it will be you can only be pleasantly surprised if it isn't or well prepared if it is.
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KarenMarie



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj wrote:
a pain in the axxx? Well, let's just say that if you arrive presuming it will be you can only be pleasantly surprised if it isn't or well prepared if it is.


That's my plan. Wink
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