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[lingcod]

The sad thing is the "foundation course" is a hundred times more useful for attaining knowledge than either IELTS or TOEFL, but unfortunately it means f-all to the universities. Credit transfers are based on the ACT score and entry based on TOEFL and IELTS. Heck, one of my former IELTS students recently completed a Master's Degree (is the apostrophe really necessary anymore?) from a large island country without any previous university degree. I'm personally baffled by the ease in which students anywhere can acquire a degree these days.

Sadder yet is after 7 weeks at the lake fishing in my home country(and rebuilding muscles severed from multiple stab wounds last National Day), I am actually considering returning for another year of teaching the aforementioned "foundation course".

[englishgibson]

[Anda]

Um, roughly $5,000 for a government assisted course, $10,000 a full fee paying local student and about $18,000 for a foreign student to study per year on the island. Expensive bit of paper being sold plus you need to look after the big dollar payers or they�ll stop coming. Costs are only for the courses full stop.

[englishgibson]

nice figures, and they're in US dollars i suppose

in china we seem to be the facilitators of this money spinning machine

cheers and beers to our facilitating jobs that give us a share

[Anda]

Australian dollars but they could be up a bit now.

[englishgibson]

a year ago, i made friends with a high ranked police official in the city and her daughter. in august, i had this former student of mine ask me if i could teach her pass the IELTS exams. i tutored the girl to the pleasue of her mother last year, but this year even though the girl wanted to come for lessons her mother insisted the girl took a private language center's lessons instead. i became suspicious 'cause we all were pretty good friends. before we all played tennis together too. after searching for clues i realized that one on one teaching of IELTS requires some personal questions and that i believe might've scared the mother off.

in any case, this young high school grad that i am talking about is now at a well known beijing uni in a program that offers MA in UK later. she's taking business/import-export, although her knowledge in either the subject or english language is so poor that i am amazed she actually has got accepted with such a subject to that uni in beijing. well, tank you mama, she can say..although she hates the subject and the language for sure. she is so talented though. she loves art, although her mother's much against it.

now, i'd really like to know how many other high school grads are in similar situations in this lovely country and how many that cannot get what they really want as well. and, there's only a limited number of students that can be accepted to those fine unis in china too.

cheers and beers to high school grads and their parents in this fine country where only a few can succeed (never mind in what field)

[arioch36]

well, u may or may not know, but many british unis have two Management/Business Masters, the normal one that actually teaches and has standards, and a dumbed down MAsters, the same name and degree on paper, that is taught to foreign studnets only (especially Chinese) who do not have the skills needed to pass the Masters. I posted this somewhere a while back. 100 % truth.
Regarding the IELTS test, most colleges in England (don't know elswhere); if a student "scores" a 7.0 on the IELTS in CHina, and then is tested again in England (which happens), and scores a 4.0 or less (not a rare occurence), guess what happens to the student? Nothing

If you want the links, I provided them in a thread several months back