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Manaus



Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: Orlando, FL

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Job as American or Resident/National Reply with quote

I was curious for those teachers with dual citizenship, or permanent residency in another country, is it easier to get a job as an American or as a national of that country?

I am interested in working in Brazil when I finish my MA and as the spouse of a Brazilian I could get my residency there and work. However, a friend of mine who worked for an International School in Brazil told me it's better to be hired as a foreigner.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Maybe there are more perks if hired as an American (airfare for example).
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going for an international school. Skip the resident stuff and have the school get you a visa, you'll get more benefits and a higher salary. I was getting 500 usd less a month, minus flights because I'm a Peruvian resident.

Get hired as a foreigner
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The use of the term "residency" is confusing.

Live somewhere a certain minimum number of days, and you are a resident (as opposed to a tourist). This usually requires some sort of visa to get in (the visa gets canceled at immigration, and you then live on what is called "status of residence").

Permanent residence (what I have in Japan) is an SOR that is granted after several years (depends on whether you are married to a Japanese). PR means you don't have to renew your status like you would in other cases (spouse visa, work visa, student visa, etc.).
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a friend of mine who worked for an International School in Brazil told me it's better to be hired as a foreigner.


From my experience in Mexico, your friend is correct. An example...one of the top international schools here in Mexico City can hire you as a foreign teacher or as a 'national'. The difference? $1100 usd per month for a housing allowance and a one-time relocation stipend worth some $1200 usd.
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rusmeister



Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I found at the genuine international schools in Russia (actually supported by embassies as opposed to simply calling themselves one) is that being hired locally is much easier (and you get paid a lot less and with practically no benefits) vs getting hired in your home country, in which case you get the higher pay (like up to 50% more), air travel, full support, med insurance. And as of 5 years ago, that was a full western salary of $35,000 annually. Now, I don't know. But I eventually learned that the schools have to offer a certain number of official jobs (which people with connections, often those who worked at the same schools in other countries, tend to get) and you have to apply from your country - speaking to a departing DOS at the Anglo-American School was very helpful. In my case I was denied in my overseas application; when I applied locally I learned the difference - they were eager to have me on the lesser terms but I was not nearly so eager myself - they are generally not allowed to offer the good packages to local walk-ins. It has to do with the laws setting them up, supposedly. That's where political connections and nepotism play a role.
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Manaus



Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: Orlando, FL

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
The use of the term "residency" is confusing.

Live somewhere a certain minimum number of days, and you are a resident (as opposed to a tourist). This usually requires some sort of visa to get in (the visa gets canceled at immigration, and you then live on what is called "status of residence").

Permanent residence (what I have in Japan) is an SOR that is granted after several years (depends on whether you are married to a Japanese). PR means you don't have to renew your status like you would in other cases (spouse visa, work visa, student visa, etc.).



PR was what I meant...I was in a hurry when I typed this question.
Everyone's responses are very helpful. Thanks!
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