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Which country is best for me? Any suggestions?

 
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Miss_Sha



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Which country is best for me? Any suggestions? Reply with quote

Hello all!

I'm very interested in teaching in an Arab country and I realize that there are many of them which have different things to offer. However, I'm not exactly sure of where I want to work. I'm hoping that some of you out there can give me some suggestions.

I know I'm going to get my bachelor's degree in TESL and I'm probably going to finish my master's degree as well. I have no actual teaching experience other than tutoring and some volunteer work. I know a bit of Arabic, maybe advanced intermediate, if that makes any sense. Do you know where I'd be qualified to work?

Ideally I want to teach secondary students. I'm mostly interested in culture and getting to know the locals. It'd be nice too if I could improve my Arabic as well. Socially, I'm not a night owl. I don't party, drink or smoke but I do like to be around some cinemas, malls/shopping centers and it'd be nice if there is a good variety of restaurants.

I'm single Muslim female. Would this affect my chance of getting a job? Do I have to look American to get a job? I know that some Arab countries and schools prefer more 'secular' teachers. Would wearing hijab hinder my job prospects? My name is pretty Western but I'm often confused for Omani or Egyptian.

As of right now the countries I'm looking at the most are: Oman, Yemen, U.A.E. (the smaller Emirates), Egypt, Libya and Jordan. However, I'm pretty much open minded about anywhere.

And just out of curiosity, where do you think the friendliest people are? Razz
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Gulezar



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Saudi? Reply with quote

Saudi does offer that one great perk for Muslims and their families. You might be able to get the umhra and hadj in for yourself and other close relatives. The main questions are: "Can and do you want to live in a segregated society?"

Others will tell you differently, but I found Kuwait to be a tolerant place. I think I've mentioned before that it is one place in the Gulf that students have actually told me that there is a small percentage of Jewish and Christian nationals. My students, at least, seem to step very carefully around the Shiite and Sunni situation. There is a "we won't ask, and you don't have to tell" attitude.

I found in the UAE that my students would ask, and one's affiliation did matter, in their eyes.

Your experience in the Middle East depends a lot on the company with which you are working. Other folks have had a miserable time in Kuwait. Some people work for a lovely company in Saudi. Your employer and your colleagues can make or break your experience in any country in the Middle East.
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007



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Which country is best for me? Any suggestions? Reply with quote

Miss_Sha wrote:
Ideally I want to teach secondary students. I'm mostly interested in culture and getting to know the locals. It'd be nice too if I could improve my Arabic as well. Socially, I'm not a night owl. I don't party, drink or smoke but I do like to be around some cinemas, malls/shopping centers and it'd be nice if there is a good variety of restaurants.

Well, in the magic kingdom (Saudi Arabia) there is no cinemas, so I recommend that you avoid the magic kingdom for the time being!

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I'm single Muslim female. Would this affect my chance of getting a job?

No.

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Do I have to look American to get a job?

NO.
Sometimes looking like American might bring you harm than good, especially in some 'hot' countries!

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I know that some Arab countries and schools prefer more 'secular' teachers.

Where? And why?!

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Would wearing hijab hinder my job prospects?

No and Yes.
It will depends on the 'politics' of the country!

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My name is pretty Western but I'm often confused for Omani or Egyptian.

Well, then it would be better if you first try Egypt or Oman, because people will confuse you with an Egyptian from the south or an Omani from the north! Laughing

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As of right now the countries I'm looking at the most are: Oman, Yemen, U.A.E. (the smaller Emirates), Egypt, Libya and Jordan. However, I'm pretty much open minded about anywhere.

Well, avoid Yemen and Libya, and go for Oman or UAE.

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And just out of curiosity, where do you think the friendliest people are? Razz

Well, I think they are on the moon! Laughing
Miss Sha, each country, including China, has good and bad people, so it is up to you how you find them! Always keep your eyes wide open when you are in a foreign country, you never know who is watching you!

Good luck.

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King Cobra 007.
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Miss_Sha



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Which country is best for me? Any suggestions? Reply with quote

007 wrote:
Miss_Sha wrote:
Ideally I want to teach secondary students. I'm mostly interested in culture and getting to know the locals. It'd be nice too if I could improve my Arabic as well. Socially, I'm not a night owl. I don't party, drink or smoke but I do like to be around some cinemas, malls/shopping centers and it'd be nice if there is a good variety of restaurants.

Well, in the magic kingdom (Saudi Arabia) there is no cinemas, so I recommend that you avoid the magic kingdom for the time being

Really? You know, I have a Saudi friend from Qatif and he said there aren't any cinemas in the KSA. But I thought maybe his town was just boring and that you could find them in Jeddah, Riyadh, Dammam and other larger cities. But then again, Qatif is pretty big.
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Where? And why?!

The first place that comes into mind is Tunisia. I'm not entirely sure why they prefer it but I guess it's because they want to minimize the influence of religion in education and politics. I was thinking it might be similar in Lebanon and perhaps Jordan.
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Miss_Sha



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Saudi? Reply with quote

Gulezar wrote:
Saudi does offer that one great perk for Muslims and their families. You might be able to get the umhra and hadj in for yourself and other close relatives. The main questions are: "Can and do you want to live in a segregated society?"

The gender segregation doesn't bother me nearly as much as the fact that I can't drive. Have they done anything to change that law about women driving? Or are personal drivers affordable?

I can survive without men, but I kinda need transportation. Laughing
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Which country is best for me? Any suggestions? Reply with quote

Miss_Sha wrote:
I know I'm going to get my bachelor's degree in TESL and I'm probably going to finish my master's degree as well. I have no actual teaching experience other than tutoring and some volunteer work. I know a bit of Arabic, maybe advanced intermediate, if that makes any sense. Do you know where I'd be qualified to work?

Ideally I want to teach secondary students.

So... you are still in high school? If you want to teach secondary level, get your BA/BSc in Secondary Education and be sure to get certified in the state where you get your degree. You can likely add ESL to this major although it is something that I have never looked into. That will take you 4 years. Then it will be another year or two to get your MA.

I think you have plenty of time to choose a country once you finish as the situations could be dramatically different by them. You could spend months just reading the information available on this board. You should also have the time to get some experience.

VS
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Miss_Sha



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Which country is best for me? Any suggestions? Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Miss_Sha wrote:
I know I'm going to get my bachelor's degree in TESL and I'm probably going to finish my master's degree as well. I have no actual teaching experience other than tutoring and some volunteer work. I know a bit of Arabic, maybe advanced intermediate, if that makes any sense. Do you know where I'd be qualified to work?

Ideally I want to teach secondary students.

So... you are still in high school? If you want to teach secondary level, get your BA/BSc in Secondary Education and be sure to get certified in the state where you get your degree. You can likely add ESL to this major although it is something that I have never looked into. That will take you 4 years. Then it will be another year or two to get your MA.

I think you have plenty of time to choose a country once you finish as the situations could be dramatically different by them. You could spend months just reading the information available on this board. You should also have the time to get some experience.

VS

No, no. Smile
I'm in college already. I just started my final year so I'm pretty certain I'll finish my degree. I'm not entirely sure about my MA but I think I'll go ahead and pursue it.
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