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Essarro



Joined: 31 Jan 2004
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Location: San Jose, CA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Avoiding illness Reply with quote

Hi. I'm about to leave for Mexico and I'll be staying almost 4 months. I've been before, the longest being for about a month. Last time I got sick even though I thought I was doing everything right. I know I will drink only bottled water, but I was wondering, should I take the effort to use water from a bottle to brush my teeth the whole time? Avoid ice everywhere? I appreciate advice- thanks.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 2583
Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote a really long detailed reply but I use the internet at work, and have many interuptions and was timed-out before I posted my reply and what I had written was lost into the abyss. So here's the short version.

It is extremely difficult to avoid a minor bout or two of "Moctezuma's Revenge". Usually it occurs once or twice in the first six months, then if you are careful you can be more or less in the clear. Four months is, in my book, an extended holiday--not residence in a place. Therefor, you can not hope to get your system aclimated in that short of time.

Here are some tips to minimize sickness and hopefull avoid anything really bad.

--get a typhoid vaccination
--get hepatitis vaccinations
--don't put tap water in your mouth ever--don't brush your teeth with it
--be choosy with where you eat
--wash your hand throughly and frequently
--eat lots of dark orange foods (papaya and raw carrots) they have parasite fighting enzymes
--eat yogurt with "good" bacteria (Activa and LC1 for example)
--make sure all the meat you eat is well done
--in hot weather, avoid dishes with cream and soft cheeses (very hard to do!)
--always stay well hidrated, but especially when you get sick.
--ice chiped from big blocks should be avoided, but other ice is usually fine.
--use straws, don't put your mouth on the tops of drink cans.

Best of luck to you,
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M@tt



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 473
Location: here and there

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: food/water Reply with quote

i don't follow all those rules, but i have to second the advice about never putting tap water in your mouth. i use bottled water to brush my teeth. it's a hassle but so is vomiting.

i got severe food poisoning at the school cafeteria, i think from chicken, and it was horrible. other than that, i think you should expect mild didarrhea. there's no guarantee that you will get terribly ill in 4 months. i would say if you avoid eating from stalls on the street, are careful about water, etc. you might make it fine without any serious problems. incidentally, if you do get sick, just go to a phamacy and they will sell you lots of helpful things OTC. any mexicans you know while you are here will be happy to help/advice you, i think. at least, that has been my experience.
good luck
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually brush my teeth with the tapwater, but I don't swallow it. I've had all the injections I could possibly need for here, and some more besides.

I don't each much meat anyway (been largely vegetarian for the last 14 years), and find when I'm forced to eat chicken its so overcooked there is no possibility of anything surviving in it. I accidentally ate some pork yesterday for the first time in a lot of years, and felt sick pretty much instantly, but I think that was just me.

The thing I have the most trouble with is the chiles. I really like to eat them, but find that when I eat too many I start to get stomach troubles.

A day rarely goes by when I don't have yoghurt at least once.

Due to some other stomach troubles I have had for my whole life, I tend to eat oatmeal/porridge every morning during the week, which puts a nice soft coating on the inside of my stomach and prevent lots of indigestion and other problems..

The only time I've been really ill here was when I ate fish. I live in the mountains, and I think that's not too good an idea. I ate lots of fish when I was at the coast recently and had no problems at all!

Lozwich.
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tesolbrother1



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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Location: Guadalajara, Mexico

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: tap water v. food Reply with quote

I was talking to a medical professional who told me that probably only 10% of the bacterial stomach illnesses here are caused by water ingestions - the vast majority are caused by food. But maybe that's just because people are super careful with the water but not so much with food. Or maybe he was just making his stats up.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:30 am    Post subject: Quick check on water... Reply with quote

Most of the problems with water in Mexico is in the gravity-fed storage tanks on the roof. Many people have switched to a cleaner, PVC or plastic type tank, but many concrete tanks still abound. I'm sure some of you have seen what wet concrete looks like? Green slime, mold, every little life form that can gain a toehold in it does. that's where you get sick.

You can drink the water here, if you really wanted to...just acclimatize first, and check the water tanks.
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 1946

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. . . probably only 10% of the bacterial stomach illnesses here are caused by water ingestions - the vast majority are caused by food.

-- tesolbrother1


My gut reaction (sorry, couldn't resist Embarassed ) to this statement is that I would tend to agree.

Although I only drink bottled water, the city water where I live is treated with chlorine. Still, most people I know here don't drink water from the tap. However, many people in the villages drink water from their own wells rather than buy bottled water. Personally, I'd be more concerned about contamination from pesticides and chemical fertilizers in those water supplies than parasite problems.

Food handling, preparation, and storage aren't always done in a very hygenic and sanitary manner. Additionally, things that I would normally refrigerate, especially in a hot climate such as we have here, are left sitting out for hours. In our school cafeteria sandwiches made with ham, chicken, or turkey are made up early in the morning, stored in plastic boxes on the counter and sold until the cafeteria closes at 9:00 p.m. The same is true of other things which contain perishable ingredients.

I used to buy a product called Milo, sold in sealed foil packets. It's a combo of powdered chocolate and powdered milk for making hot or cold drinks when mixed with water. However, I noticed that it often had a sour taste. Then one day I observed a new shipment of Milo being put on the shelves in the supermarket. The supermarket employee used a toothpick to poke several holes in each foil packet so that the packets would stack more easily on the shelves. So much for sealing in freshness!

Frozen foods aren't popular here. Ask almost any Mexican what he thinks about eating beef that has been in a freezer for months, then thawed out and cooked! It's not unusual for frozen foods to be thawed and refrozen several times during transport and storage. A number of products that would normally be stored in freezers or at least in coolers in American supermarkets are on display in the aisles in supermarkets here.

In this part of the country it's standard procedure to treat oneself for parasites and amoebas about every 6 months. Amenox (for amoebas) and Vermox (for parasites) are the common prescription drugs used for these treatments where I live. However, a prescription isn't needed. They can be purchased over the counter at any pharmacy.
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: ewwww!!! Reply with quote

On the water thang, this morning while I was brushing my teeth, I was thinking about what Guy said....

Quote:
Many people have switched to a cleaner, PVC or plastic type tank, but many concrete tanks still abound. I'm sure some of you have seen what wet concrete looks like? Green slime, mold, every little life form that can gain a toehold in it does. that's where you get sick.


Then I remembered that in the past, I have lived on properties in regional Australia with no town water, and my only source of drinking water was either from a concrete tank that was filled by rainwater runoff from a very rusty roof or from a bore (which is a really deep hole in the ground). And we thought that we were getting BETTER water than our poor counterparts in the nearby town because ours was unsullied by nasties such as chlorine and fluoride. Why the thought of green slime, mosquito larvae, bits of leaf, bird and frog droppings and anything else that might get in there never bothered me is unknown... Shocked

Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to start swigging water out of my equally disgusting concrete tank on the roof here in Mexico, but maybe its all just a question of perspective....

Have a great day!! Laughing

Lozwich.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concrete? In my town at least half of the roof top tanks are made out of asbestos. Twisted Evil Yum yum.


Lozwich mentioned that too much chile could be the cause of stomach problems. Any suddend change in diet could be. You see many foreigners eating huge plates of tropical fruit. More than their normal monthly intake of fresh fruits, yet they never think to blame that as the cause for the runs.
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M@tt



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: here and there

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've been sick now for two days with bad bad cramps and diarrhea. who knows what caused it? i spent the weekend in mexico city and had juice and nuts from street vendors, meals in 5 different restaurant (hair in the food in the last one, but otherwise good), and who knows what was on my hands every time i touched my face. yet i did use bottled water, washed my hands frequently, etc. i don't feel that i took abnormal risks with things but i was still unable to avoid getting sick. so my point is,

hmm....

well, i think i just wanted some sympathy.
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M@tt,

Sorry to hear that you're feeling under the weather.

Although it most likely was from something you ate, those symptoms aren't always caused by food. For the past couple of weeks here, some type of flu bug (same symptoms) has been making the rounds. Seems to run its course in 2 or 3 days.

If you aren't feeling better soon, I'd suggest you get yourself to a clinic. Who knows what you might have picked up in Mexico City! Shocked
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from it being the general evils of Mexico City Twisted Evil , I'd blame the nuts. I used to work in a nut factory (yes, really) and you wouldn't believe the things that like to hang around there.. A couple of years ago in Australia a whole bunch o people got sick from the rats that had been bouncing around a certain peanut butter factory. Rats luuurrve nuts...

Urgh.

Don't eat nuts on the street!

Drink gatorade, eat potatoes, pasta and bananas and feel better soon M@tt.

Lozwich
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