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Generasian X



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Good points! Reply with quote

Gracias for your opinions.

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cangel



Joined: 12 May 2003
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Location: Jeonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest just having the testicular fortitude to tell them that you have been offered another opportunity that's too good to pass up. However, in doing so, your school will be without an ALT, at least on a regular basis. Maybe if you're a JHS ALT and rotate between school, it wouldn't be such a great loss but if you have a base school, keep in mind the position you're putting your teachers and students in... Personally, I'd honor my contract, or have a dam* good reason to break it.
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Celeste



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Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no nice way to do it, but I would tell them sooner rather than later. A girl in my city quit half way through her contract about 2 years ago, and she was not penalized. (Everyone was pretty upset, and her schools were left in the lurch. People still talk about it.) I would advise against doing this, as you will get a reputation for being flaky and unreliable.
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ntropy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the above with one more caveat...your visa may not be "workable" especially if you leave on bad terms. In order to renew/get a new visa, your old employer must sign off the old one. I've known places that refuse to do so, leaving the person unable to go to the new position
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking a JET contract Reply with quote

Generasian X wrote:
Yes, I know it sounds INSANE, but if it must be done, how might one do it and remain working in Japan... at a much better position?


Yes, it is insane. Honour your contract. Since this "much better position" knows that you'd be leaving JET, what does this say about Them?
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Laura C



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I concur with honouring the contract.

I think that bailing out just for a better offer would be a pretty crappy thing to do to your school.

I wouldn't say that for all jobs, for example if a contract was being broken or whatever, but JET, imho, has excellent terms and conditions, and it's like slapping those in the face to bail out for such a reason.

I don't see how practically it could be done, either. JETs can go home if they are homesick, depressed or whatever -- at least they're of course not forced to stay -- but if a JET had to get their visa signed over so they could work elsewhere then it would be obvious they weren't going home. It would cause a huge amount of hassle, maybe damage the programme, confirm to some people the prejudice of lazy, unreliable foreigners... just not worth it, I think, and against the ethos of the programme.

L
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang, what's better than JET? They give you lots of support, you get to meet other foreign folk at the conferences, they subsidize your rent and pay your way home if you go directly home on finishing the contract.

I wouldn't bail if I were you. If you're in the middle of the contract, I would stay and just hold out for the next school year.

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don't see how practically it could be done, either. JETs can go home if they are homesick, depressed or whatever -- at least they're of course not forced to stay -- but if a JET had to get their visa signed over so they could work elsewhere then it would be obvious they weren't going home. It would cause a huge amount of hassle, maybe damage the programme, confirm to some people the prejudice of lazy, unreliable foreigners... just not worth it, I think, and against the ethos of the programme.


I'm with you on this one, Laura C. I don't know anybody who's bailed on JET mid-year without a really good reason. Even I wanted to go home at the December mark, then decided I was being a whimp and stuck it out 'til the end. I really enjoyed my time on JET even though I had some unpleasant situations at the schools.
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struelle



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking a JET contract Reply with quote

Generasian X wrote:
Yes, I know it sounds INSANE, but if it must be done, how might one do it and remain working in Japan... at a much better position?


Although I haven't taught at JET, I've got friends who have and it's by far one of the best games in town. Honoring the contract would only make sense. It's not just from an ethical view, but also practically when you look this low-standard industry and see how difficult it is to find decent employers who treat people well. In this industry, such employers like JET are exceptional, so they should have exceptional teachers.

Steve
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
Dang, what's better than JET? They give you lots of support, you get to meet other foreign folk at the conferences, they subsidize your rent and pay your way home if you go directly home on finishing the contract. .


You also forgot to add that if you complete the three year term you get your pension payments refunded to you (about 900,000 yen) when you return home. Hang on for a year and you get about one months worth of premiums back- around 300,000 yen. Quit mid-year and you can virtually kiss that goodbye. Cant think of any entry-level teaching job that compares to the JET program, apart from university positions, myself.
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Dr.J



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise that many people have a bad time on JET, but the above posts pretty much sum it up. You will be much worse off if you split. Your school probably won't be hit as hard as people are suggesting (although the kiddies might miss you?) Summer is only a few months away.
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Laura C



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to add that as far as I remember, you may be liable for reimbursing the cost of your airfare to Japan if you leave for a frivolous reason. I'm not 100% sure on that, but I know that we we told if we were sacked/arrested or whatever, i.e., lost our position through our own damn stupidity Very Happy, we could be liable for reimbursing JET what they had spent so far on our contract. That can include salary paid so far as well, maybe also housing costs. No, they probably wouldn't make you pay everything back -- but check your contract, because in my young day they were entitled to do so.

L
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