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Deicide



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Is there any other reason to work in the Middle East apart Reply with quote

from the money?

I would appreciate it if people would answer this honestly. If I were to work there then I would only go because of the cash.

Is there any other reason whatsoever for seeking work in the Middle East?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about experiencing a culture/cultures that is/are probably so very different from your own?
Maybe others don't see this as an attraction, but I found it a source of endless fascination during my twenty years in the Middle East.
And then, there are the travel opportunities - and they don't have to be terribly expensive. See Petra, if you go there, and there's Egypt as well.
Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
How about experiencing a culture/cultures that is/are probably so very different from your own?
Maybe others don't see this as an attraction, but I found it a source of endless fascination during my twenty years in the Middle East.
And then, there are the travel opportunities - and they don't have to be terribly expensive. See Petra, if you go there, and there's Egypt as well.
Regards,
John


I thought you live on foreigners compounds and never mix with the locals?

I think I feel uneasy because of the theocratical nature of many of these countries. I guess the rule is to never talk about religion and never, ever talk about Islam in any way, shape or form? Have teachers ever been executed for doing such things? What about posting on religious forums? Do authorities monitor that?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deicide wrote:
I thought you live on foreigners compounds and never mix with the locals?

Well, the locals are human beings, and are sociable and friendly. They are not going to eat you or cut your head with a double-end sword!

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I think I feel uneasy because of the theocratical nature of many of these countries.

Well, if you have that fear inside your mind, why bother in the first place to think going and work in the ME?

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I guess the rule is to never talk about religion and never, ever talk about Islam in any way, shape or form?

Well, I see here an effect of Islamo-phobia running inside your brain! Don't let the street Media paralyse your brain! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:
Deicide wrote:
I thought you live on foreigners compounds and never mix with the locals?

Well, the locals are human beings, and are sociable and friendly. They are not going to eat you or cut your head with a double-end sword!

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I think I feel uneasy because of the theocratical nature of many of these countries.

Well, if you have that fear inside your mind, why bother in the first place to think going and work in the ME?

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I guess the rule is to never talk about religion and never, ever talk about Islam in any way, shape or form?

Well, I see here an effect of Islamo-phobia running inside your brain! Don't let the street Media paralyse your brain! Laughing


Money.

You have worked in the Middle East, not because of money but because of the culture?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have teachers ever been executed for doing such things
No, but we could do with some distractions so I'm sure we could arrange it in your case.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You realize that you are painting with an extremely BROAD brush here don't you?

Each country in the ME is very different in terms of language, culture, religious practices and culturally acceptable behavior.

Saudi is very different from Yemen, and the UAE is different from Iraq. There have been doctoral disserations written on how they are similar and different.

But I can think of about 5 to 10 reasons to come and work here besides for the money (but that is probably the biggest reason).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
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Have teachers ever been executed for doing such things
No, but we could do with some distractions so I'm sure we could arrange it in your case.


Confused Rolling Eyes

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adorabilly wrote:
You realize that you are painting with an extremely BROAD brush here don't you?

Each country in the ME is very different in terms of language, culture, religious practices and culturally acceptable behavior.

Saudi is very different from Yemen, and the UAE is different from Iraq. There have been doctoral disserations written on how they are similar and different.

But I can think of about 5 to 10 reasons to come and work here besides for the money (but that is probably the biggest reason).


Which is the most theocratic and least welcoming to foreigners/non-muslims?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Is there any other reason to work in the Middle East apart Reply with quote

Hey troll
what's your schtick really?
Many of us have a great life in the Gulf, no compounds, lovely people, nice students, no agro
Cultural life is great - depending on where you are ,of course
Does your avatar indicate your attitute towards life in general? If so don't disturb us!
E.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there any other reason to work in the Middle East apa Reply with quote

ETG wrote:
Hey troll
what's your schtick really?
Many of us have a great life in the Gulf, no compounds, lovely people, nice students, no agro
Cultural life is great - depending on where you are ,of course
Does your avatar indicate your attitute towards life in general? If so don't disturb us!
E.


I am not a troll. I just want to figure out how to get a job there and make money. My avatar doesn't mean anything; I like roleplaying games. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My suggestion would really depend on your qualifications, your experience and what you want to do.

Look over the ME country specific parts of this board and then make up your mind and try one.

There are literally tons of threads on the benefits and detriments of each country and many of the universities/colleges in each country.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Deicide,

"Which is the most theocratic and least welcoming to foreigners/non-muslims?"

I'd say Saudi Arabia. But I spent nineteen years there and notice what I wrote in my previous posts.
Even if you live on a compound, you don't have to hide away on one (though, in my experience, some do.) You can travel around the city and the Kingdom. You won't get invited into too many Saudi homes, but almost all the Saudis I met were friendly and very pleasant. And while Saudi is a theocracy, I found that gave me a much better appreciation of separaton of church (or mosque or temple) and state.
Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As stated before the Middle East life and culture varies from country to country.

Of course people come to the Middle East for the money, but while you are here why not engage in all that life has to offer as well.

Some people live on compounds while others live within the local community.

If this is your first time to the region I would recommend more moderate/ tolerant countries like the UAE, (Egypt), Bahrain, Qatar, Oman. Having said that, you should realize that the rules you live by at home are considerably different in the Middle East.

Save Saudi Arabia for when you have matured as you seem to be quite naive.

Saudi Arabia is no place for the naive.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the best things about working in the M.E. is the ease of getting away for long weekends and for longer holidays, the world is pretty much your oyster. To give an example - I spent a long weekend in Yemen and another in Kathmandu - both places I might not have got to otherwise.
It's something I miss about where I am now where short break opportunities are really only Malta and Tunisia - not particularly exciting...

The money - it has to be said - is certainly a bonus as is the lack of tax (though that might change), a big plus for me was the weather but then I am a warm/hot weather person.

I've never lived on a compound and neither have I worked in Saudi, give the other places a try first.
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