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Finding a high school job in the Aomori prefecture...

 
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Finding a high school job in the Aomori prefecture... Reply with quote

Hi, I've posted on here a bit since I did a study abroad in Hirosaki a few years ago. I've been working in Korea since. Now, I've worked my way through the Korean system up to a university and I find it quite OK.

I am considering making the jump to Japan next year though. I was specifically looking at Hirosaki city or Aomori city. I only have a BA so my understanding is that a university job in Japan is impossible (even though I have uni experience from Korea it's apples to oranges, right?).

Anyway, any advice on how to contact these schools and what sort of benefits would I be looking at? Right now the biggest bite is going to be losing my university vacations. I'm only a lecturer but if I do my grading throughout the semester and don't wait until the very end I can usually muster 6 weeks of vacation in the summer and winter breaks... damn nice after the 10 days of non-consecutive vacation offered during my hagwon indentured servitude.

Thanks.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Finding a high school job in the Aomori prefecture... Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
Hi, I've posted on here a bit since I did a study abroad in Hirosaki a few years ago. I've been working in Korea since. Now, I've worked my way through the Korean system up to a university and I find it quite OK.

I am considering making the jump to Japan next year though. I was specifically looking at Hirosaki city or Aomori city. I only have a BA so my understanding is that a university job in Japan is impossible (even though I have uni experience from Korea it's apples to oranges, right?).

Anyway, any advice on how to contact these schools and what sort of benefits would I be looking at? Right now the biggest bite is going to be losing my university vacations. I'm only a lecturer but if I do my grading throughout the semester and don't wait until the very end I can usually muster 6 weeks of vacation in the summer and winter breaks... damn nice after the 10 days of non-consecutive vacation offered during my hagwon indentured servitude.

Thanks.


I think you may find you need some sort of language teacher training / Bachelor of Education program, unless you happen to speak very good Japanese already. That's what most people seem to have in high school jobs. At my school, I think pretty much everyone has a TESOL certificate on top of a BA, or a graduate degree, or a Bachelor of Education (in some cases, all of the above).

Also, direct hires to high schools are pretty rare. Almost everything is done through intermediary companies (dispatch companies).
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of benefits do you get? I'm especially interested in vacation time. How about pay?

What dispatch companies are good places to start?

Hirosaki city is pretty rural by Japanese standards so I'm not sure if this makes a difference in getting into a school there.

My Japanese is basic but I feel I could probably improve it quickly in the next year if necessary. I've got a handle on a fair bit of Korean and Chinese characters so really I've just got to relearn hiragana and katakana. And, then begin acquiring some grammar skills.


Thanks.
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Nabby Adams



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is university work with Westgate. They offer a lot of vacation and often advertise on Daves.

Gaijinpot website advertise a lot of dispatch work at the high schools.

With the above a BA would be enough.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aomori is a nice area and all, but if I were you, I wouldn't marry myself to one specific area of Japan. Especially if you're trying to transfer over from Korea. It's not like people are going to be knocking down your door trying to give you a job.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
Aomori is a nice area and all, but if I were you, I wouldn't marry myself to one specific area of Japan. Especially if you're trying to transfer over from Korea. It's not like people are going to be knocking down your door trying to give you a job.


See the bold print above... ironic. There's a divorcee in Aomori that I did a homestay with when in university. Now that she's single we have hit it off. I'd like to see where it might lead but living in Korea complicates it a little.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm... another thought.

Suppose I do go over to Hirosaki and actually start work at a cram school, what are they called anyway, eikaiwa?

What are my chances of moving up in the food chain as I do my time? If I finished an online degree while living in Japan would this help me to get into a better position and maybe even return to academia?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Idea
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been to Hirosaki, but just given the fact that it's a smallish city and not a business or manufacturing centre, I'd say your chances of moving up the food chain, without any contacts, are a bit slim.

Never say never of course, but I think if you really want to come to Japan, you'd be better off focusing on Tokyo and the Kanto area. That's where the work is?

Have you been to Japan before?
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaz47 did a study abroad in Aomori a few years ago, according to his first post.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

azarashi sushi wrote:
I've never been to Hirosaki, but just given the fact that it's a smallish city and not a business or manufacturing centre, I'd say your chances of moving up the food chain, without any contacts, are a bit slim.

Never say never of course, but I think if you really want to come to Japan, you'd be better off focusing on Tokyo and the Kanto area. That's where the work is?

Have you been to Japan before?


I do know a few people there, in the community and at one of the universities. If I landed without a job I'm sure my former host family would let me stay. If I did stay, I'd probably marry my former host mother. I really enjoy being with her and her two children. But, it is a ready made family and the financial implications make it seem a bit daunting.

Oh, and if it seems a little scandalous, she is only three years my senior.

Smile

I think I'll vacation there for my winter break and see we survive six weeks together. Any input in the meantime is appreciated though.
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'd be better off speaking to your former host mother/probably wife to be rather than posting here because it all hinges around her.

Remember, Japanese will always be polite to your face and endeavour to maintain the harmony of a situation, but it's not necessarily what they really mean.

I think you'd be better off taking one step at a time... Get yourself to Japan, anywhere, get a job and visa first and then cross the marriage bridge when you're a bit settled here.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't want to say this because it makes me feel weird, not sure why, nervous maybe. But, she is the one who is pushing for marriage. Maybe I already implied or stated that.

If you're married to a Japanese person what sort of employment possibilities do you get? In Korea a spousal visa is fantastic you actually get treated humanely, but Japan's treatment of foreigners already seems much more civilized.

I know the standard pay for a cram school isn't enough to support a family but she does own her home so that's a start.

The toughest part is saying goodbye to my long holidays which means I won't be able to see my family back home for long stretches of time (again).
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Others will chime in but I think with a spousal visa you can work in any area, not just English teaching... You can work in any area but of course you need the skills. What other skills do you have?

I still think it would be best just to get a job in Japan anywhere you can... Get sponsorship and an income and then cross the next bridge when you come to it. That way, you're on a bit more of an even playing field.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

azarashi sushi wrote:
Others will chime in but I think with a spousal visa you can work in any area, not just English teaching... You can work in any area but of course you need the skills. What other skills do you have?

I still think it would be best just to get a job in Japan anywhere you can... Get sponsorship and an income and then cross the next bridge when you come to it. That way, you're on a bit more of an even playing field.


Well, I was a graphic designer for a local newspaper group. The city was pretty rural, quite akin to Hirosaki now that I think about it. Anyway I worked my way up there for a bit until it got tedious and then went abroad.
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Grasshopper



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I have been to Aomori once. Nice place.

I think you had a good idea about going on vacation there for a few weeks first to see how things feel. During this time you could discuss future possibilities with your future wife, and at the end of the period you could decide if you really wanted to marry her and go back there again or not. Otherwise, it might be hard to make a decision from across the ocean, and you don't want to lead her on if you're really not going to be interested.

But then again, you might be, and it might work out great. But I think the vacation there is a good idea, and you could also use the time to ask around and scout out possibilities.

Good Luck.

G
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