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killian
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 937 Location: fairmont city, illinois, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: what is your school's policy on knives? |
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what does your school do about knives? do they allow them, turn a blind eye or what?
the boys here are packing and it is disconcerting. one kid has already told me he has a knife for me. now he is a dropout but hangs around the (unsecured) school most everyday. |
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Mister Al

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: |
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We don't have a policy. It's all chopsticks around here.  |
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mikefriend
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Sleep walking around the world. But don't wake me up, you might kill me.
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: Re: what is your school's policy on knives? |
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killian wrote: |
one kid has already told me he has a knife for me. now he is a dropout but hangs around the (unsecured) school most everyday. |
Clarify that please.
He wants to give you a knife?
Stick it in your back?
Sell it to you?
Does he like you ? Dislike you?
In past schools knives were everywhere. Students would sit at their desks and play with them. Uni and Highschool. |
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killian
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 937 Location: fairmont city, illinois, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: |
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he said something like "laoshi- wo de daozi deng ni". his english is worse than my chinese and i take it mean his knife awaits me. he told me this while he skipping class out on the blind side of the school. |
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mikefriend
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Sleep walking around the world. But don't wake me up, you might kill me.
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Well when that statement is made and you see a knife I would say all bets are off and you need to take the offensive and slowly and calmly walk up to the guy and then just knock the crap out of him quickly and efficiently.
At the end keep his knife as a memento of your days events. |
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brsmith15

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 1142 Location: New Hampshire USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Knives? Don't eat peas with them!
Seriously, tho, I think you've got a potential problem brewing. Did you tell your school authorities? The PSB? The Triads? |
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Eyrick3

Joined: 29 Mar 2008 Posts: 161 Location: Beijing, China
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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I would say all schools would be anti-weapons of all kinds.
I've yet to hear of a school that actually allows their students to bring knives to class. Well, accept for perhaps a 厨师学院. |
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cj750nomad

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 252 Location: Beijing and
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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many Chinese students carry box cutters to sharpen pencils and to do a little fine ball room carving on their FT... |
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mikefriend
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Sleep walking around the world. But don't wake me up, you might kill me.
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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cj750nomad wrote: |
many Chinese students carry box cutters to sharpen pencils and to do a little fine ball room carving on their FT... |
That's funny, in the US many Arabs used to carry box cutters on airplanes for the similar reasons. |
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cj750nomad

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 252 Location: Beijing and
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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i thought it was to carry on jihad..now;...ball room carving requires Pabst Blue Ribbon... and a woman with enough hair to fill a pick up truck...but if u feed your Chinese students with a steady diet of Jerry Springer, they adapt to "trailer" park culture quickly... |
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Hansen
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 737 Location: central China
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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You should be determining your own personal policy on knives, especially after being threatened with having one used on you. My experience indicates that Chinese management style does not always include crisis aversion. In this case, since the crisis includes you being stabbed, you need to take serious stock of the situation.
Frankly, if a student threatened you with a knife and displayed it, unless you happen to be the kind of person who goes like a lamb to the slaughter, he crossed a line and deserved a severe beating. It would probably cost you your job and might even lead to more serious injury if other students got involved. On the other hand, do you want to work in an atmosphere of fear and intimidation? Next time, he may do more than display it.
Most likely, no matter what the justification, you are going to lose in this situation. If you beat the kid and stick around, his parents are going to want to be paid. If he stabs you, seriously, what's going to happen to you?
Another approach would be to take special pains to befriend the student to defuse the situation. If he is a true sociopath, of course, he will use the friendship to simply get a better opportunity to stab you.
The Chinese sense of humor can be quite different from that of waiguoren.
May all be just a joke. Do you have enough experience to determine the seriousness of the threat? Are stabbings common in your area, in your school, or around it? If yes, you've got a problem.
Get the school authorities involved. |
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Policy = bigger and faster knives have right of way over smaller and slower knives. Unless there is a jackknife in an intersection. ; ) |
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mikefriend
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Sleep walking around the world. But don't wake me up, you might kill me.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Teatime of Soul wrote: |
Policy = bigger and faster knives have right of way over smaller and slower knives. Unless there is a jackknife in an intersection. ; ) |
Pretty much the same rule as shipping and boating, yes? |
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sharpe88
Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 226
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Get in a physical fight with a supposedly armed student ?
That's bad advice on so many levels.
Speak to the authorities ASAP. |
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Neilhrd
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 233 Location: Nanning, China
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: Oh yeah! |
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Speak to the authorities -- who will do precisely nothing.
In a previous school there was a pupil who everyone agreed had a psychological problem. He repeatedly attacked other students, threw clothes out of the windows, banged his own head against the walls etc.
Repeated complaints to the authorities by the foreign teacher, the DOS and the Chinese teachers achieved nothing. Eventually he threw a piece of wood which hit the FT above the eye causing a cut which required several stitches. Result -- the school refused even to suspend let alone expel him. His parents were called to the principals office and I believe paid a fine none of which was offered to the FT as compensation. The FT was ordered to continue teaching the boy as though nothing had happened. He tore up his contract and left China in disgust. Tom was one of the finest teachers I have ever heard and China's loss.
In this country you fight your own battles in your own way and don't expect support. |
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