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eddy-cool · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 1008

I know that a LOT OF DOCUMENTS in China are fake but FECs aren't among them. I won't believe that unless you have proof!

IanMWashburn · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:38 am Post subject:

cj750nomad · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 252 Location: Beijing and

IanMWashburn · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:05 am Post subject:

Hansen · Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 737 Location: central China

I tend to agree with Mr. Washburn. There are a multitude of fake documents around, including ones with red seals. Although people make a big deal out of the red chop, they can and do appear on any fraudulent document.

Guanxi is the only thing that you can really depend on here, whether the contract, certificate, and so forth are fake or not. As an FT, you may have access to someone with guanxi, a nengren that can make things happen. It's unlikely that you will have it yourself.

cj750nomad · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 252 Location: Beijing and

FEC is what I mean...as far as I am aware..several agencys can distribute the book .. as to the printing and who they get them from.. not sure..this I know for sure...u don't have to sign a SAFEA contract to get a FEC issued...it can be issued on a Foreign contract with a foreign employer.. if your work post is approved by the Department of Labor...

Last summer during the games .. the FEC was the easiest of the paper work to secure ...

never seen a fake FEC and not sure why it would be faked...

IanMWashburn · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:41 am Post subject:

Forget it.

arioch36 · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589

Stupid me, I'll speak up Rolling Eyes

As said, only, only the SAFEA has the right to issue the FEC.

However, there is a constant turf battle going on. I will say I do have personal knowledge of this. There are at least two arms of the SAFEA where I am, and a readjusting of who controls what several years ago.
But on one hand the SAFEA has the sole authority to issue the FEC, by law.

That being said, on the other hand, I am aware of many "reliable' posters who have told that there "FEC came from such and such a place, not the SAFEA. It is quite possibly true, given the law and China. Power is not that centralized, many cities try to run things there way, many city offices try to hold on to their power despite edicts from Beijing. The sky is high, and Beijing is far away. It's equally likely that they didn't understand.

On the gripping hand, what really matters is what the PSB accepts. If you got your RP, the FEC don't matter much. If the PSB accepted a fake FEC for your RP, no problem. Worse case scenario, burn the FEC

I have never had a fake FEC in severn years, nor have I known any one to have a fake FEC. WHat purpose??? If you are here on a z-visa, it is cheap and quick for the school to do.

I was given a fake residence permit my second year in CHina. That was a problem

arioch36 · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589

Oh, PS, your work unit isn't accepted by the Dep't of labour, but (genericaly) the provincial/city waishiban office .. education office/SAFEA office in control of Foreign Experts (us). This is the office that the school goes to get your work permit, that has a red stamp and red numbers of the work unit/school they u r allowed to work at.