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kidkensei
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 36
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: Is university level teaching for me?? |
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Is university level teaching for me??
In the last two months I�ve sent out close to a dozen applications to individual universities for a position teaching English and so far I haven�t had a single response. Perhaps my cover letter sucks but realistically I think its because
1) I don�t have teaching experience
2) I don�t have publications
3) I don�t have an MA that�s related to linguistics or education
I�m willing to except that while starting out I may have to take a position as at AEON or Interac but I really think I would be overqualified to teach elementary or high school kids.
***If teaching at a university means I will have to prepare longer for grammar lessons that are complex even to native English speakers, this is fine. The more English students know in advance, the more I will learn about Japanese culture and thought through them by teaching. I would inevitably be more exposed to abstract ideas being discussed in Japanese universities as they transit through English.
So given these reasons, how many of you think university teaching at this stage in my career is suitable for me? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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1) I don�t have teaching experience
2) I don�t have publications
3) I don�t have an MA that�s related to linguistics or education
Three strikes and you're out. There might be an extremely rare remote chance that some uni will hire you, but odds are less than 1%. Look at the ads in JRECIN and see what they call for. All of the above and more. |
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dove
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 271 Location: USA/Japan
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I know that university jobs are considered the best teaching job in Japan (good salary, good vacation, good teaching schedule, etc). I, myself, am working part-time at a university. BUT--can I be honest with you?--I don't like it. I have never taught more unmotivated, meek, timid, and passive people in my life. I know that it might just be the classes I got this semester and maybe I'll get better students next time. But every class seems like pulling teeth. I try so many kinds of activities (I have complete freedom), but nothing seems to spark these student's out of their coma. Also, the few good students seem to dumb themselves down so not to stand out.
Do any other university teachers struggle with this? What do you do? Do you just teach for the few who want to be there? Probably you just have to accept the fact that you're sometimes going to have a dud class.
Maybe university teaching isn't for me. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just wondering how someone could be overqualified to teach high school or elementary school kids without any teaching experience at all? That is harder work than eikaiwa teaching in my opinion.
I can understand not wanting to teach kids, but....overqualified? For real? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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dove wrote: |
I know that university jobs are considered the best teaching job in Japan (good salary, good vacation, good teaching schedule, etc). I, myself, am working part-time at a university. BUT--can I be honest with you?--I don't like it. I have never taught more unmotivated, meek, timid, and passive people in my life. I know that it might just be the classes I got this semester and maybe I'll get better students next time. But every class seems like pulling teeth. I try so many kinds of activities (I have complete freedom), but nothing seems to spark these student's out of their coma. Also, the few good students seem to dumb themselves down so not to stand out.
Do any other university teachers struggle with this? What do you do? Do you just teach for the few who want to be there? Probably you just have to accept the fact that you're sometimes going to have a dud class.
Maybe university teaching isn't for me. |
Maybe you should start a new thread, dove. What sort of class? Writing? Reading? Listening? Oral commuication? Content? How about some details on the class itself (size, grade of students, type of uni, etc.)?
I am full-time at the uni, and yes, there are plenty of unmotivated kids, most of whom simply take the easiest English classes to fulfill their credit requirements. You gotta teach to the middle, but depending on the course, you do different things. Main point is, don't lecture them. They just need the credit and usually don't have to participate.
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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overqualified?
Having previous experience teaching primary or secondary school students helps a lot.
You are qualified to work in eikaiwa.
Dove, you should go to JALT or ETJ. Teaching the unmotivated is a common theme.
Lots of teachers at JALT talked about their frustrations with teaching. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Is university level teaching for me?? |
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kidkensei wrote: |
Is university level teaching for me??
In the last two months I�ve sent out close to a dozen applications to individual universities for a position teaching English and so far I haven�t had a single response. Perhaps my cover letter sucks but realistically I think its because
1) I don�t have teaching experience
2) I don�t have publications
3) I don�t have an MA that�s related to linguistics or education
I�m willing to except that while starting out I may have to take a position as at AEON or Interac but I really think I would be overqualified to teach elementary or high school kids.
***If teaching at a university means I will have to prepare longer for grammar lessons that are complex even to native English speakers, this is fine. The more English students know in advance, the more I will learn about Japanese culture and thought through them by teaching. I would inevitably be more exposed to abstract ideas being discussed in Japanese universities as they transit through English.
So given these reasons, how many of you think university teaching at this stage in my career is suitable for me? |
You're one of the best trolls in weeks!! Keep up the good work - & good luck on not being banned within thirty seconds.  |
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Hoser

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 694 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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I don't think he's trolling-I think it's just a good joke.
Anyways forget about university. Junior high is where it's at. Most of the kids love you, they're not exactly motivated but nor are they 'too cool for school' yet either. I get 4 months paid vacation per year not including all the other days off- national holidays, exam periods, bunkasai, sports day, random days for no seeming reason whatsoever. It's just great. Surely not even Glenski can beat that?  |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Making a joke post to see what responses you get is still considered trolling, even if it's relatively benign like this one. I've seen some good trolls before, but this one isn't particularly funny. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Hoser wrote: |
I get 4 months paid vacation per year not including all the other days off- national holidays, exam periods, bunkasai, sports day, random days for no seeming reason whatsoever. It's just great. Surely not even Glenski can beat that?  |
What do you mean by "not even Glenski"? I work for a living! |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
Making a joke post to see what responses you get is still considered trolling, even if it's relatively benign like this one. I've seen some good trolls before, but this one isn't particularly funny. |
Oh, I don't know - I giggled when I read it. I particularly like the basic grammatical errors. They add to the whole feeling of cluelessness of the post.  |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Well, he (she?) insists he's not trolling. If so, I still want to know how someone with no teaching experience is overqualified to teach school kids. In my opinion that is the harder job than eikaiwa, which is why I've never wanted to do it. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Hoser wrote: |
I don't think he's trolling-I think it's just a good joke.
Anyways forget about university. Junior high is where it's at. Most of the kids love you, they're not exactly motivated but nor are they 'too cool for school' yet either. I get 4 months paid vacation per year not including all the other days off- national holidays, exam periods, bunkasai, sports day, random days for no seeming reason whatsoever. It's just great. Surely not even Glenski can beat that?  |
Third years most certainly ARE 'too cool for school'.
I prefer SHS to JHS- sure a lot of kids are too cool for school, but at least it's different than beginning level, and a lot of kids try hard. |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: |
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GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
I prefer SHS to JHS- sure a lot of kids are too cool for school, but at least it's different than beginning level, and a lot of kids try hard. |
To each their own. I teach elementary school (1st and 3rd grade), true beginner English. Their overall level of enthusiasm for learning is extremely high and they make significant language acquisition gains. They have better listening and pronunciation than a good number of Japanese Teachers of English that I've met. |
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flyer
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 539 Location: Sapporo Japan
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
Just wondering how someone could be overqualified to teach high school or elementary school kids without any teaching experience at all? That is harder work than eikaiwa teaching in my opinion.
I can understand not wanting to teach kids, but....overqualified? For real? |
excellent point! |
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