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That Canada Guy



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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Location: East Coast of Canada

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Staying in Japan Reply with quote

Ok, so I have noticed there seems to be a number of people here who have been living in Japan for several years. How do you do it?
I have read that you can only do the JET program for 3 years. If I go somewheres over seas, I was thinking of staying for a few years.

Also I read that eikaiwas seem to have a high turn over rate and that many of the people on this board are generally not fans of them. Do many people stay at eikaiwas for several years?

So what does everyone get into to stay and live in Japan, universities?
Or are there private schools?
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Sour Grape



Joined: 10 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Staying in Japan Reply with quote

That Canada Guy wrote:
Ok, so I have noticed there seems to be a number of people here who have been living in Japan for several years. How do you do it?
I have read that you can only do the JET program for 3 years. If I go somewheres over seas, I was thinking of staying for a few years.

Also I read that eikaiwas seem to have a high turn over rate and that many of the people on this board are generally not fans of them. Do many people stay at eikaiwas for several years?

So what does everyone get into to stay and live in Japan, universities?
Or are there private schools?


I think the rules have been relaxed slightly for the JET program, and it is up to five years now.

Yes, there are private schools.
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parrothead



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: Staying in Japan Reply with quote

That Canada Guy wrote:
Ok, so I have noticed there seems to be a number of people here who have been living in Japan for several years. How do you do it?
I have read that you can only do the JET program for 3 years. If I go somewheres over seas, I was thinking of staying for a few years.

Also I read that eikaiwas seem to have a high turn over rate and that many of the people on this board are generally not fans of them. Do many people stay at eikaiwas for several years?

So what does everyone get into to stay and live in Japan, universities?
Or are there private schools?

Assuming it is agreeable to both you and your employer, you can work at a Japanese eikaiwa indefinitely. Not all are the same, but most require heavy teaching hours. I think many teachers get their feet in the door via eikaiwa work and then move on to greener pastures. It is entirely possible to do the JET program and then find other ALT work once your contract is up. For many long-termers one of the least appealing aspects is constantly having to renew 1 or 2 year contracts (and 1 or 3 year visas). Many long-term residents, however, are married to Japanese and have families here. Some have their own schools. Their visa situation may be different.
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people move on from English teaching- I still teach one private student, but I now mostly live off translating and proofreading, among other things.

Others go into IT or finance if they have the relevant skills.

I have been here for 10 years, I got married to a Japanese guy almost 4 years ago- a major reason for my still being here Smile
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Lyrajean



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 109
Location: going to Okinawa

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Staying in Japan Reply with quote

Sour Grape wrote:
That Canada Guy wrote:
Ok, so I have noticed there seems to be a number of people here who have been living in Japan for several years. How do you do it?
I have read that you can only do the JET program for 3 years. If I go somewheres over seas, I was thinking of staying for a few years.


I think the rules have been relaxed slightly for the JET program, and it is up to five years now.


Yes, JET can be 5 years now, but not automatically. From what I understand to stay for a 4th or 5th year you have to interview, apply for a specific 4th or 5th year job, and prove that you've improved your Japanese by either passing any level of JLPT or one of their correspondence courses. So basically you have to be a good JET by your employer's standards. Up to 3 years they'll recontract just about anybody, including people, who from what I've heard, should have been sent packing.
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Rooster_2006



Joined: 24 Sep 2007
Posts: 984

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Staying in Japan Reply with quote

Lyrajean wrote:
Sour Grape wrote:
That Canada Guy wrote:
Ok, so I have noticed there seems to be a number of people here who have been living in Japan for several years. How do you do it?
I have read that you can only do the JET program for 3 years. If I go somewheres over seas, I was thinking of staying for a few years.


I think the rules have been relaxed slightly for the JET program, and it is up to five years now.


Yes, JET can be 5 years now, but not automatically. From what I understand to stay for a 4th or 5th year you have to interview, apply for a specific 4th or 5th year job, and prove that you've improved your Japanese by either passing any level of JLPT or one of their correspondence courses. So basically you have to be a good JET by your employer's standards. Up to 3 years they'll recontract just about anybody, including people, who from what I've heard, should have been sent packing.
The JLPT score should not be a problem for any mentally competent individual. Anyone who has lived in Japan for three or four years and doesn't know the 727 words necessary to pass the JLPT Level 4 is a moron.

4 years = 1460 days
Learn a word every two days, and you'll be fine.
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AgentMulderUK



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marry a local
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markle



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Staying in Japan Reply with quote

Rooster_2006 wrote:
Anyone who has lived in Japan for three or four years and doesn't know the 727 words necessary to pass the JLPT Level 4 is a moron.

Looks like I'm a moron.
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Ryu Hayabusa



Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say, if after 3 or 4 years of trying their best to learn the 727 words and they still haven't, then that person is a moron.
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