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Only for so-called "native speakers" ???
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hollysuel



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kootvela wrote:
Thank you for your post. I really appreciate that.

Already got 2 job interviews and it's my holidays...baaaaaaaaah.


Good for you!
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys talk about non-native speakers as if it is a completely homogenic group if English speakers.

There is quite a difference between a non-native speaker and a non-native speaker. All of my English teachers were non-natives. All of them had London dialects that were nearly impossible to distinguish from a native speaker. Yet, there are also have non-natives throughout Europe who have quite poor English.

There is a reason why Holland and Scandinavia don't hire native speaking English teachers.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr/Ms. Egg:

I happen to be a US citizen who is well paid to teach English at a university in Holland Shocked

They even went far out of their way to get me a legal work/residence permit because I'm not an EU citizen.

And I'm not the only one, though I will admit that such openings are rare.
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Mr/Ms. Egg:

I happen to be a US citizen who is well paid to teach English at a university in Holland Shocked

They even went far out of their way to get me a legal work/residence permit because I'm not an EU citizen.

And I'm not the only one, though I will admit that such openings are rare.


Oh... nice!
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hollysuel



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theincredibleegg wrote:


There is a reason why Holland and Scandinavia don't hire native speaking English teachers.


I would beg to differ...I'm an American who has been teaching English in Finland since 1998. I came here as I was recruited by my employer at a TESOL conference. I am well qualified however as I have two MAs. Anyway, native speakers are hired here!

I do have a healthy respect for my non-native speaking colleagues and feel that they teach English quite well. There is a difference, however, in accent and use of the language. If you want perfect grammar--ask a non native to teach you...

Just my 2 cents!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, have significant experience + the relevant MA. Qualifications can make a difference in helping a teacher to be considered for the rare openings that do arise.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a difference, however, in accent and use of the language. If you want perfect grammar--ask a non native to teach you...


Maybe that is true in western languages but often in Asia I even hear teachers with M.A.'s from the United States sometimes using the wrong tense. I believe that it is difficult for Asians to grasp English tense 100 percent. Many non-natives don't grasp the past perfect unless their language uses the past percent like Spanish.
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