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[ayahyaha]

So I went to the Malopolski Urzad Wojewodzki, to the Foreigner's Office, thinking I was going to register my address. I got there, queued, spoke to the nice lady (who spoke English), and was given a form called "Application for the Residency Permit for a Defined Period of Time" (a.k.a. Wniosek o udzielenie zezwolenia na zamieszkanie na czas oznaczony).

This is not what I want, I am relatively certain. Clearly I missed a step.

But, (a) what exactly is this form? Is it what I get after I do the initial 3-month temporary registration?

And (b) so where do I actually go to just register my address?

I got a huge packet of info in English (and Polish) about what documents are required and lots of legal stuff for this Residency Permit, which is great, but again, not what I need at the moment.

If anyone needs a list of the documents, straight from the horse's mouth, let me know, and I'll post it.

Help?!

[simon_porter00]

I think the zam. is ending at the end of the year to be replaced by the residency permit. So posting what you need would inevitably be helpful for all others that would need to read through this bumpf. Scanned copies would be even better. English language information was hard to come by when I got my 3 month permit (now upgraded to 5 years) so I'd be interested in reading the info.

[ayahyaha]

I'll try to get it scanned.

This is sort of bad news (if what you say is the case), because this Residency Permit costs 400zl and obviously requires a lot more in order to process. A copy of the legal title to my flat, for instance.

Hmm.

[simon_porter00]

Ah, this sounds like the thing I suspected might happen. They call the zam something else, make it harder to get and of course more expensive. Can't actually remember if my zam cost anything other then a negligable fee, although I wouldn't trust my memory further then i could throw myself.

[ayahyaha]

Just returned from a different place (Urzad Miasta) with a different story.

This other nice lady (who also spoke English) said it's not a problem to get zameldowanie so long as I have an actual lease from my landlord (I only have written permission to live in my apartment, with date restrictions but no mention of rent).

It's good for 3 months, it's free, and there's no form to fill out. Just show up.

This is not what the first person told me--she said I couldn't get a temporary zameldowanie at all, and this without asking anything except what country I was from (U.S.A.).

So I'm sticking with the second lady. She also knows that I am American, so that doesn't make a difference.

Problem is that I'm seriously running out of time and getting a lease from the landlord with actual monetary figures on it seems well nigh impossible.

Hmm again.

[hrvatski]

Many Polish landlords are reluctant to allow their tenants to zameldować się in their apartments because if they do so, and you become a bankrupt bum, you are legally entitled to stay in their apartment not paying rent until things get better.

In addition many Polish landlords aren't paying tax and therefore prefer to stay off the radar in such matters.

To summarise, it's a really shitty situation.

[Harry from NWE]

[hrvatski]

There must be still some problem with zameldowanie and bums staying in there though. Before we moved into our apartment our landlady was trying to get rid of a bum for 3 years unsuccesfully. In the building across the street there was also an eviction recently of a guy who hadn't been paying rent for 2 years who they finally got permission to remove by force.

[Harry from NWE]

[hrvatski]

Wait you mean the way to be a bum with free accommodation is not to have a rental agreement?

Or the way to avoid bums living in your apartment as a landlord is not to have a rental agreement?

[Harry from NWE]