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vikuk



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the honeymoon-period finally runs-out - the stark realities of the job of China FT - can be rather depressing. Suddenly all that incompetence, rudeness, exploitation and social/cultural alienation can start to take over from the pleasures and adventure of working in China. Suddenly enjoying China starts to become hard-work for those who decide they're going to stay � and just working as an FT is usually not enough.
Some of the warnings, you get from the old-china-hands, aint meant to be bitter - they just try to show how this job sometimes affects the FT the longer they try and stick it out Idea
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PattyFlipper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Wise words indeed, and after a while one needs to carefully examine one's motives for remaining in the Celestial Kingdom, before perhaps deciding that discretion is the better part of valour. Knowing when it is time to leave (whether that is after two months or twenty years) should be an essential component of the survival kit carried by any expatriate or sojourner. Your mental hygiene depends on it.
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Teatime of Soul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FATHER: "Son, every person is a mountain where two tigers fight a battle. One tiger is full of envy, bitterness, laziness, and hate. The other tiger is selfless, compassionate, ambitious, and full of love."

SON: "Tell me father, which tiger wins?"

FATHER: "The one you feed."
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FATHER: "Son, every person is a mountain where two tigers fight a battle. One tiger is full of envy, bitterness, laziness, and hate. The other tiger is selfless, compassionate, ambitious, and full of love."

SON: "Tell me father, which tiger wins?"

FATHER: "The one you feed."

I suppose a lot to do with how you survive in China - depends on what type of Tiger you have for an employer.
After all its kind of hard feeding the inner-tiger when all you meet is greed Idea
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Pattyflipper & Vikuk

You certainly have to be sure of yourself as a teacher in order to keep your mental health intact. I worked with a guy who had many years of experience from his home country; work experience from Thailand and being an IELTS-examinator. He hit the wall. I kept going for half this semester, then i hit the wall aswell. Eventhough I can explain all the reasons for my situation, it still fucks with my head. I wish i had more work experience from home to rely on, because this is seriously damaging my mental health.

I still don't get how people manage to work here for years and years. Do you have some kind of special trick or did you just stop caring about your jobs?

I have a few weeks left of my contract. After that, im moving to work for a British management for one year. Then im going home.

Finally, I hope you guys are doing well and manage to stick in there until it's over.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I survive by having turned my back on education and concentrating on the things that give me the greatest pleasure in China - my wife, travel and bird watching - I now make a living in an area that brings me joy rather than constant irritations that can quickly turn into pain. But the way new fresh bodies are brought into the China EFL mill still pains me - after all it can't be right that the main qualification for most jobs here is the ability to say yes to a deal where one is treated as a mindless commodity that's shunted around from classroom to classroom until it breaks Idea

By the way there are also some great employers out here - you might not get rich out of them, but they treat you with a great deal more respect and understanding. I have a pretty good idea that the poster Teatime of Soul could be one of the good tigers Idea
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eddy-cool



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You certainly have to be sure of yourself as a teacher in order to keep your mental health intact.

I still don't get how people manage to work here for years and years. Do you have some kind of special trick or did you just stop caring about your jobs?
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You certainly have to be 'sure of yourself' in ANY capacity and in any milieu, work place and country, don't you think so?

I wouldn't apply for a job for which I felt I wasn't suitably prepared; I cannot imagine myself selling jewellery even though both jewellers and teachers make a living by speaking to people.

There is no 'special trick' in surviving here and keeping one's sanity; if you can do the job you can do it virtually anywhere. You have to minimally adapt to different locales and situations but basically teaching is teaching anywhere.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no 'special trick' in surviving here and keeping one's sanity; if you can do the job you can do it virtually anywhere.

BIG WARNING - China isn't virtually anywhere. Chinese employers aren't any old employer. China FT jobs aren't the same kind of teaching job as you find anywhere else - after all just ask Mr Cool how easy he finds it to get an EFL job outside China. Most FT's here haven't even had a teaching job outside China Idea

The young often do this job on the road to experience, the old as a way of getting a more exciting retirement - but teaching year after year in China with no way up the ladder - be careful you don't get stuck, since China easy can soon turn into China boring and China different - well you just have to read these forums to see how living and teaching here is different from most other places, and how those differences sometimes add up to some serious hassle!!!!!
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Teatime of Soul



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the west, we too often define ourselves by what we o (or sadly in some cases, by what we own).

I used to know a respected professional who answered the "What do you do?" question as such, "I'm a husband to a great wife who gave me two terrific kids. I also enjoy carpentry. Oh, and I do accounting to pay the bills". He owned the accounting firm actually.

I think, akin to what the earlier poster wrote, the focus on what gives you pleasure notion is a formula for sanity and balance.

Back in the west, a lot of people are working for a boss or employer they are at odds with. They may get paid on time, but they get forty hours a week of mental abuse and stress too.

I don't recommend tolerating every form of abuse, but I do think having perspective and a focus on what you are centered on will help carry you through the rough patches.

I see a big difference between being bitter versus healthy venting about common frustrations.
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikuk wrote:
I survive by having turned my back on education and concentrating on the things that give me the greatest pleasure in China - my wife, travel and bird watching - I now make a living in an area that brings me joy rather than constant irritations that can quickly turn into pain. But the way new fresh bodies are brought into the China EFL mill still pains me - after all it can't be right that the main qualification for most jobs here is the ability to say yes to a deal where one is treated as a mindless commodity that's shunted around from classroom to classroom until it breaks Idea

By the way there are also some great employers out here - you might not get rich out of them, but they treat you with a great deal more respect and understanding. I have a pretty good idea that the poster Teatime of Soul could be one of the good tigers Idea


Yes, that's a way of looking at it. Though, i tend to hate everything outside work aswell when work isn't good. I happend to find a good employment for next semester, so there is a bright future on the horizon.

I'm not so bothered by the greediness. It's being treated like a foreign token and a quasi-teacher that bothers me. Anyway, just a few more weeks for me and then i have a better job (and real) job. Teaching English of course. It's lower pay but better work conditions.

Remember that there are plenty of teachers in your position, so don't take it out on yourself.
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddy-cool wrote:
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You certainly have to be sure of yourself as a teacher in order to keep your mental health intact.

I still don't get how people manage to work here for years and years. Do you have some kind of special trick or did you just stop caring about your jobs?


You certainly have to be 'sure of yourself' in ANY capacity and in any milieu, work place and country, don't you think so?

I wouldn't apply for a job for which I felt I wasn't suitably prepared; I cannot imagine myself selling jewellery even though both jewellers and teachers make a living by speaking to people.

There is no 'special trick' in surviving here and keeping one's sanity; if you can do the job you can do it virtually anywhere. You have to minimally adapt to different locales and situations but basically teaching is teaching anywhere.


Have you worked as an FT for a public Chinese middle-school? If you haven't, then i can assure you that you will have serious problems no matter how well you did your job in your home country. An FT at a Chinese middle-school has very poor work conditions. I'm not talking about housing and visa-problems. I'm talking about serious organizational issues that make the attempt of teaching nearly impossible. Then you have two completely different cultures. Step into a Chinese school with Lev Vygotskij as your best friend - You will fail before you even enter the classroom.

If i would've had 5 years of teaching experience from home, then i could lean back on those 5 years when the shit hits the fan. Now i can't. That's whole benefit of experience.
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