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Guy Courchesne
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| ---Why are all these people going abroad for their MAs and PhDs if foriegn degrees are not thought of as "better" some how? |
Simple...dinero. |
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notamiss
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MELEE
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see how any of that refutes the thought that Mexicans think more highly of foriegn degrees than they do of their own degrees, or is this posted as supporting evidence? |
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girlcabbie
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I have my BA from the University of South Africa. In America, people are constantly surprised by this, and have generally never heard of my university. Whereas I've met people from all over Africa, England, and Europe who say, oh yeah UNISA.
It hasn't been a problem applying for jobs, but I didn't even bother with applying to US schools for grad school because you have to pay an agency to verify your degree and your transcripts.
I applied to two British Universities for my masters and got accepted to both. I just had my uni send the transcripts, didn't have to pay any application fee, and didn't have to get anything translated (they have someone on staff who verifies the acceptablility of your grades).
So I'm thinking: the problem with Mexican degrees isn't the school, it's American's with their heads in the sand? For instance: My stepmom is worried about me not being able to make phone calls from Mexico...i.e. she thinks there are no _phones_ there. |
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MO39
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| girlcabbie wrote: |
it's American's with their heads in the sand? For instance: My stepmom is worried about me not being able to make phone calls from Mexico...i.e. she thinks there are no _phones_ there. |
As far as Americans having their collective heads in the sand, it's one thing for Americans not to have heard of your university; not having ever had friends from South Africa, it's an unknown quantity to me too. But I have never had any of my relatives or friends or acquaintances in the US say that Mexico has no telephones! |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| So I'm thinking: the problem with Mexican degrees isn't the school, it's American's with their heads in the sand? |
In the examples I've seen for the US and Canada, it was employers and immigration officials who simply did not recognize the degrees. |
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girlcabbie
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| girlcabbie wrote: |
it's American's with their heads in the sand? For instance: My stepmom is worried about me not being able to make phone calls from Mexico...i.e. she thinks there are no _phones_ there. |
As far as Americans having their collective heads in the sand, it's one thing for Americans not to have heard of your university; not having ever had friends from South Africa, it's an unknown quantity to me too. But I have never had any of my relatives or friends or acquaintances in the US say that Mexico has no telephones! |
Well, she's not really the most sane example I guess. 
When I say I'm driving down to Mexico, most of the responses I've gotten from people have been "Don't you know they're killing people down there". As if there are no murders happening in the US. Granted, I am in a _very_ small town at the moment. |
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MO39
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| So I'm thinking: the problem with Mexican degrees isn't the school, it's American's with their heads in the sand? |
In the examples I've seen for the US and Canada, it was employers and immigration officials who simply did not recognize the degrees. |
What would immigration officials have to do with recognizing Mexican degrees? |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| That example is from Canada. It was for a work visa. |
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MO39
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| girlcabbie wrote: |
When I say I'm driving down to Mexico, most of the responses I've gotten from people have been "Don't you know they're killing people down there". As if there are no murders happening in the US. Granted, I am in a _very_ small town at the moment. |
To be fair, most of the news about Mexico appearing in the US media is (and usually has been) bad news, and right now the murders perpetrated by the drug gangs has reached alarming proportions. As far as driving to Mexico is concerned, it's something I've never done, but there are certain border cities that I would be leery of driving through at night. Cu�date, chica. |
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MikeySaid
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| girlcabbie wrote: |
When I say I'm driving down to Mexico, most of the responses I've gotten from people have been "Don't you know they're killing people down there". As if there are no murders happening in the US. Granted, I am in a _very_ small town at the moment. |
To be fair, most of the news about Mexico appearing in the US media is (and usually has been) bad news, and right now the murders perpetrated by the drug gangs has reached alarming proportions. As far as driving to Mexico is concerned, it's something I've never done, but there are certain border cities that I would be leery of driving through at night. Cu�date, chica. |
i know the rest is going to be off topic so first i'll ask... if you do get a master's in applied linguistics or tesol or education or english or something else... how much better does the pay get down mexico way? do "amazing" positions open up or is it still a matter of having connections and being in the right place at the right time (mexico and the rest of the world)
now to ramble
My family can not be convinced that they'll make it even to Torreon in one piece. media sensationalism and a bit of precaution will probably keep a large percentage of Americans and Canadians from driving into Mexico. Living in country most of us have a hard time looking at it from their perspective. I just (read: five days ago) drove up to El Paso from Torreon, right through Cd Juarez and while in Juarez it never crossed my mind that I was in a narco battleground. We just followed the road signs for the appropriate bridge and made our way into the US. Hell, we even stopped at a Soriana for a 12 pack of Noche Buena for me to cart out here to California for my dad.
Now, when I hear girlcabbie say she's planning on making the drive, I ask myself if she's going to have any male accompaniment in the car and if she speaks the language/knows karate...
girlcabbie, to where are you headed in Mexico? and... what route? |
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girlcabbie
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Now, when I hear girlcabbie say she's planning on making the drive, I ask myself if she's going to have any male accompaniment in the car and if she speaks the language/knows karate...
girlcabbie, to where are you headed in Mexico? and... what route? |
At the advice of a distant cousin, I'm going over to Yuma and then crossing the border south of there.
I'm going to head down through Guaymas to Mazatlan and then over to Guadalajara. I think.
As for male escorts, I have a noisy pitbull/chocolate lab mutt who travels everywhere with me. He doesn't provide protection, but does give people a reason not to bother me. I'm travelling in a shortbus/RV, and have even lived on the street in it up in Oregon without a problem. But, I knew what parts of town to park it in. I've posted a ride share, so might have others travelling with me. I know a workable amount of Spanish and mime.
But nowhere on the planet is _safe_, there are crazies everywhere, and I can't make life choices based on fear. I would have a really dull life. I mean I already over spent three years driving cab, which is considered the third most dangerous job in the US. While, I'm not the sort of person to jump out of a plane, I don't mind the challenge of driving into a foreign country. |
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