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What's the employment outlook in TEFL for 2009?
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No Moss



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: What's the employment outlook in TEFL for 2009? Reply with quote

This is related to James S's topic, but more general. I live in Shenzhen, and I'm not looking for a full-time job. But I would say that hours in the language schools seem to be down, since I'm not getting any part-time work these days. Part of that is attributable to the approaching Spring Festival, but I used to get fill-in work as the local native teachers left for the Christmas holidays. This year, hardly anything.

I've always maintained that there is a limitless demand for English in China, but a limited amount of disposable income to pay for English instruction, especially by us native speakers.

So what's your experience or opinion?
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Mikeylikesit114



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Demand Reply with quote

Demand is defined as willingness and ability to pay, which is why it is influenced by factors such as income and expectations about future income.

What do Chinese expect about their future incomes???
You tell me. Question
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they've stopped buying property, they've stopped buying cars - so maybe some of them will decide to stop paying for English lessons Idea
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Eyrick3



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so maybe some of them will decide to stop paying for English lessons


If there's one industry that will never fail in this country, it's quality education.

In 2007 10 million high school students tested for 5.7 million spots in universities throughout the country--which means that 43% of those students did not get into a university that year. That 43% either re-studied that last year of high school, went into a vocational school, or started bussing tables.

Competition for spots in universities is HUGE. It's MASSIVE. No self-respecting parent is going to hold out on giving their kid extra lessons in any subject, whether it be privately in a 1-to-1 environment, or with a group in a private language school.

If there is to be any change in the demand for English language teaching due to the current economic situation, it's going to be that private tutors will find less work and private language schools (some who only charge 20 RMB/class) will get more students as they're cheaper than the 1-to-1 alternative.

Bottom line: the job outlook is great and it's only going to get better.
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Ms Bean



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I began considering a return to China, I have noticed fewer offers and advertisements from "Language Schools". I've also noticed an increase in pay from public universities in general.

Another trend that I've noticed is that public schools offer half-year contracts which are renewable (as one FAO told me) "depending upon what kind of teacher you are."

I think that China's economic engine will run a bit differently for awhile, given the fact that the rmb has risen in value while the dollar has dropped in value. (Yeah, I know, this has already been raised, but it is relevant to the discussion). Perhaps as China's currency strengthens, its economy may become more consumer-oriented, rather than manufacturing -oriented.
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Slowing Down Reply with quote

"...I would say that hours in the language schools seem to be down, since I'm not getting any part-time work these days." -- No Moss

The economy is definitely slowing down in China, as it has elsewhere. I've heard of people being put on unpaid leave for up to a month, or even longer. Some people's traditional Lunar New Year's bonuses could be chopped. This uncertainty is bound to have an effect on the discretionary end of the education market. Someone who has a kid in high school or university is unlikely to pull him/her out mid-course. But I think the language school market is more likely to be hit. And, if the slow-down goes on long enough, some of the private schools could potentially see a drop in their recruitment numbers.
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Buck Lin



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in between jobs at the moment. My top university has hundreds of students who have graduated long ago sitting around and self studying. If they get high marks on tests coming up this week they will get jobs. Otherwise they must pay for a job. This was the same at my last school. The school will provide a job for a few thousand rmb.
Education is usually a good field to be in during bad times. People stay in school or go back for upgrading. But maybe the leaders of China would like them to do other things than look at books.
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Lhenderson



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've notice alot more foriegn teachers arriving in the past few months.

Interestingly, I've never seen so many female teachers applying before.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If there is to be any change in the demand for English language teaching due to the current economic situation, it's going to be that private tutors will find less work and private language schools (some who only charge 20 RMB/class) will get more students as they're cheaper than the 1-to-1 alternative.

Bottom line: the job outlook is great and it's only going to get better.

Wow yeah - great outlook Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
With less money in their pockets - more choosing the 20RMB/class model - also look forward to huge pay rises Laughing
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Lhenderson



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:29 am    Post