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Sinobear

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sojourner
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 738 Location: nice, friendly, easy-going (ALL) Peoples' Republic of China
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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A few more ideas.
Someone has mentioned Harry Potter and Sherlock Holmes. Both involved characters who could be regarded as somewhat "eccentric". It would appear that in British culture, through both literature and history, eccentrics are more widely accepted than they are in American culture ? One of the key differences between the two cultures ? Regarding the first Harry Potter movies, I have heard that originally some American film producers wanted to turn Harry into an American, attending an American school, etc. Rowling would have nothing to do with such a proposal ! Harry is uniquely English - his mannerisms, attitudes, approaches, etc, cannot be easily transferred to a different cultural setting - albeit one that is also English-speaking. (BTW, Sherlock Holmes' DVDs ( both the Basil Rathbone and the more recent BBC version) are available in Shanghai).
There has also been a reference to the Kray Twins - really nasty pieces of work ! Yet, they were supported by many ordinary people within their community (London's East End, I think). I believe that it was the same situation with respect to Al Capone. Maybe, such a phenomenon could stimulate class discussions - eg, why would people support criminals ? Maybe, the police/authorities were perceived to be "outsiders"; the Krays and Capone were generous towards the local people; the criminals were perceived to be "romantic", "persecuted victims", etc. Maybe, the class could be asked whether Chinese people ever romanticise criminals ?
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silvertonguedcavalier
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 27 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Get The Encyclopedia of Fairies and British Folktales and Legends by Katherine Briggs. |
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Ms Bean

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 110 Location: Wilmington
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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It might be interesting to explain some of the improbable pub names and signage they'll encounter during their stay in the U.K.. (Ask a Brit about this. You'll undoubtedly get a better answer than I can give).
Other good ones:
Queen of May
Stories of hags like Jennie Greenteeth
The story behind "London Bridge is Falling Down".
The Green Children of Woolpit.
The story of Godiva.
Gog and Magog, the guardians of London.
Some of this stuff is pretty grim, I know, but it's a part of English lore, and most of it is based on historical fact, or was told for some social purpose.
I think that these are a pretty good start. I know about these because when I was a kid, my parents hired a British woman to mind the kids. She particularly enjoyed telling stories about hags to make us go to bed.
I was twenty-five before I could go to bed with the light off. |
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Ahchoo

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Magna Carta. I think a Chinese class would love it.
An introduction from Wiki.
I always thought it was 1214 though.
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Magna Carta (Latin for Great Charter, literally "Great Paper"), also called Magna Carta Libertatum (Great Charter of Freedoms), is an English legal charter, originally issued in the year 1215. It was written in Latin.
Magna Carta required King John of England to proclaim certain rights (mainly of his barons), respect certain legal procedures, and accept that his will could be bound by the law. It explicitly protected certain rights of the King's subjects, whether free or fettered � most notably the writ of habeas corpus, allowing appeal against unlawful imprisonment.
Magna Carta was arguably the most significant early influence on the extensive historical process that led to the rule of constitutional law today in the English speaking world. Magna Carta influenced the development of the common law and many constitutional documents, including the United States Constitution. Many clauses were renewed throughout the Middle Ages, and continued to be renewed as late as the 18th century. By the second half of the 19th century, however, most clauses in their original form had been repealed from English law.
Magna Carta was the first document forced onto an English King by a group of his subjects (the barons) in an attempt to limit his powers by law and protect their privileges. It was preceded by the 1100 Charter of Liberties in which King Henry I voluntarily stated what his own powers were under the law.
In practice, Magna Carta mostly did not limit the power of the King in the Middle Ages;[citation needed] by the time of the English Civil War, however, it had become an important symbol for those who wished to show that the King was bound by the law.
Magna Carta is normally understood to refer to a single document, that of 1215. Various amended versions of Magna Carta appeared in subsequent years however, and it is the 1297 version which remains on the statute books of England and Wales. |
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Ms Bean

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 110 Location: Wilmington
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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The Magna Carta would be great for history, but I believe that the OP asked for folklore.
I'd skip the Harry Potter and Sherlock Holmes. There's a difference between lore and literature. |
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