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enoch83 · Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Taipei, Taiwan

Yesterday i had an interview w/ EF Surabaya (anyone w/ exp w/ them?). and the guy told me that teachers typically will teach both age groups in the same day. to me, this sounds emotionally draining, and something I'd rather not do. I'd prefer to teach one or the other. Does anyone have experience doing this that can shed a little light bout it? thanks

oh ya and second question. currently in taiwan, wanting to move to Indo, do you think its better to just turn up on an island and seek work, or get hired overseas through EF/TBI. i know here in Taipei, i would recommend a person just show up, get a hostel, and shop around schools. how about Indo sans Jakarta/West Java?

Atoms for Peace · Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 135 Location: NKRI

Shadow2009 · Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 27 Location: W.A.

Morning Class 0830 : usually adults

1500 Class : could be young kids to teenagers
1630 Class : as above
1800 Class : teenagers or adults
TOEFL usually in the evenings or Saturdays and obviously young adults

Yes it can be emotionally draining. Drink lots of coffee and smoke furiously in your breaks. However not all schools run to the same schedules, but yes expect to be teaching mixed age groups. If you end up with no young kids count your blessings !

I had a MOD EDIT who at 7 years old got himself expelled for bad behaviour. He attacked his maid and started to kick holes in the wall. Can't say I was unhappy to see him go.

Your state of mind will guide your day. If you go in with a negative attitude I guarantee you will have a lousy day and want to do a "runner"
Just remember those lovely little darlings look at you as the "all knowing and never wrong expert"

If you have fun, they have fun and the time will fly.

As they say in the ads "enjoy aja"

enoch83 · Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Taipei, Taiwan

Elkythedogsperson · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject:

tanyakenapa · Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 180 Location: Batavia

I teach kids and adults everyday.... I dont mind it one bit!

The kids classes all happen early afternoon...sure you have to use a bit more energy, plan more activities to keep them interested.

Then usually the teenage/adults classes start from 5pm.... where you can go at a slower place and have a chat with the students about whatver you like.

Yesterday we had extra time, so one girl decided to ask what bitch actually means.. (they thought bitch is the same as prostitute) or she wanted to know what bencong was in English.

All good fun Smile

Shadow2009 · Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 27 Location: W.A.

Ha ha ha, I forgot about the MOD EDIT word, yes I don't know how many times I had to explain the real meaning(s) of it. They do seem to have warped ideas on some subjects don't they ! Too much American TV. Just like the good old "F" word they can only use it as an insult, they don't realise the full potential of it. Probably a good thing......
Regarding my earlier post I didn't always do morning classes I did them by choice as I was paid a whopping Rp25,000 per class. Over a month it was an extra Rp500,000 so it was worth it.
Not all EFs in Jakarta were doing morning classes. A lot of teachers were should I say physically incapable of waking up at such an hour. Rolling Eyes

Nabby Adams · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 215

Shadow, tell me that you missed a zero from that 25,000 please.

Shadow2009 · Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 27 Location: W.A.

No 25,000 per class is correct.

It was on top of normal salary. The morning rate was whilst I was with them from January 2004 until December 2005.
My first years salary was 6,500,00 per month and my second year was 7,500,000 per month. Add to that a housing allowance of 750,000 per month so 1 months salary in 2005 could be 8,750,000.
My kost up in Karet cost me 1,600,000 per month. Transport to and from Blok M was by busway which was 2500 each way.
I survived and was able to make my credit card payments and have a few beers.
So in 2006 when I changed jobs and went to 14,000,000 it was like Xmas.

Madame J · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject:

ngantuk · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Indonesia

Physically and mentally draining. Especially if you're required to work a "Double Shift", as has already been mentioned by previous posters.

Many schools don't demand this from their teachers and have "an early start, early finish" policy - but sadly this isn't always the case !. Best to ask first as to what to expect re the schedule etc and make your decision from there.

All the best re your search.

Vertumnus · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 142 Location: Indonesia

As for searching from there or coming here first, either way works. Sometimes that trial class is the clincher...

I don't mind teaching a mixture of children, teens and adults. It gives me variety and different challenges so I can improve myself as a teacher.

Having said that, I prefer not to teach children (but they are always there).

If you're working in a language course, you're guaranteed to have to deal with a mix. Just think positively. Smile

-D

ljb · Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 41

When working in a language school one of the commitments we make is teaching a wide variety of students. Different levels and ages are all part and parcel of the working week.

I work for EF and teach different levels and ages in any one given day and I have to say I enjoy the variety. I like the energy I get from working with children and I enjoy the opportunity to unwind with adult students later in the day.

I have found the skills and coping mechanisms I have developed through this to be invaluable and recognize them as skills that will take me easily through situations that will arise in future jobs.