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what are normal working hours in Surabaya/Indonesia?

 
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enoch83



Joined: 02 Nov 2007
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Location: Taipei, Taiwan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: what are normal working hours in Surabaya/Indonesia? Reply with quote

I've been offered a job in Surabaya with Great Crystal Intl School and they have a 7:30am-3:30 M-F plus 7:30am-12:00 Saturday. Is this normal in surabaya or the region? I'm really not keen on 6 days weeks since I teach to support my travel habit.

oh ya anyone have opinions about GCIS?
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Synergy101



Joined: 14 Jun 2005
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Location: Jatim

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Working Hours and GCIS Reply with quote

Working hours; generally a 5 consecutive day working week, Sat would be overtime and rare. Teaching hours; between 20 -25 hours a week is the norm.

GCIS..... lets put it this way, if believed that Sarah Palin could really see Russia from her house then GCIS the place for you. Cool

I'll pm you
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malu



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those hours suck. It is true that most state schools have a six day week, but private K12 schools usually don't in Indonesia.

I have worked for 2 K12 schools and my hours in school were Mon-Fr 0715-1545 in the first and 0730-1600 in my present job. My teaching hours about 18 plus a couple of meetings.

It would be difficult to go anywhere at weekends if you have to work until mid-day Saturday.

I'd keep on job hunting.
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enoch83



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guy, this job is a no go. so my next question is: are the teaching hours in IN usually like normal banking hours? it seems from the replies that you guys are mostly working morning-afternoon. here in taiwan, the teaching industry functions mainly from afternoon to evening.
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Shadow2009



Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 27
Location: W.A.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Hours Reply with quote

It basically depends on two things.

1. Private schools such as EF, ILP, EEC are most often after school hours. These are the commercial language schools and so cater for kids and the adult market.

2. TK, SD, SMP, SMA(U) Actually working within the education system itself where English is a mandatory second language. Not all schools employ Native Speakers though and will use local staff. School hours anywhere between 0630 - 1430 . Unlikely you would teach a full 8 periods in one day, local teachers don't, they consider 6 periods a day as enough.

I used to teach (31) 45 minute classes per week Monday to Friday whilst with UPI. This was years 7,8,10,11 and 12.

Universities if you manage to get in there operate to different schedules.
Other than that is getting into businesses and doing evening work.
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Synergy101



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For language schools the working hours are generally afternoon and evenings. Some schools may have a late morning start.
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Vertumnus



Joined: 03 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Working hours vary Reply with quote

1) Tell any school you won't work Saturdays unless you ask for it. Some schools require it, some do it on a rotating basis, some on a voluntary basis, and others only for special events, but many almost never ask you to work weekends.

2) Work hours can start anywhere between 6-8 if you're full-time at a real school, and finish 8-9 hours later (depending on lunch time, usually). Actual number of teaching hours varies from 15-30 (I'd say stick with less than 25 if you only teach one subject, and less than 20 if you teach multiple subjects), and you may or may not be expected to fulfill a 40-hour workweek. Less than 15 TH is possible, although not so common. State schools often have 6 days of classes, and even some private schools do, too.

At language courses, you may start at 12-3 pm and finish around 9. Hours are more flexible, and may not require 40 hours in the school, so long as you work 20-30 hours in the class. You may be asked to teach morning/weekend classes, but this is often rotating or voluntary.

Tell them what you want. If they don't agree, and you won't compromise, just move on. There are lots of places desperate for qualified teachers.

-D
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