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Mekyn
Joined: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Cuernavaca
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: Where should i teach? |
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Hello everyone,
I am just finishing up with my master's in tesol and i am trying to decide where I should teach. Basically my plan is to gain a year or two years experience teaching adults abroad and then come back to OR to teach at the local community college for 9 mon of the year and still have 3 mon free to travel and teach abroad.
Money is an issue for me because I have a lot of school debt. However, it would be good if i had experience teaching in a spanish-speaking country as that would help me get a job in my area.
So I think that I have narrowed my search down to either Mexico or Japan or a year of each perhaps. Basically, i think i can make more $$ in Japan but experience in Mexico would probably help get a job in OR which would be more $$ eventually.
If you have experience in either or both of these countries please advise me. |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: tuition |
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Keep in mind that if you have a perkins or stafford college loan that there is provision for not paying it if your income is less than a certain amount. Back in 1994 that amount was $16,000. You would best check to see what the new minimum is.
In Mexico it is unlikely that you will be earning more than the minimum, so you will be exonerated from repayment. |
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Mekyn
Joined: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Cuernavaca
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I think that most of my loans are Stafford. But I owe about 80k. Will they really not make me pay just because I am not making much money. Don't they expect you to make money eventually? Like when you advance in your career? |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Mekyn wrote: |
I think that most of my loans are Stafford. But I owe about 80k. Will they really not make me pay just because I am not making much money. Don't they expect you to make money eventually? Like when you advance in your career? |
You'll have to pay them off eventually, but you can get a certain number (not sure what that number is, though) of payment deferrals for different reasons, one of them being not earning lots of money, as geaaronson has mentioned above. It would behoove you to check with the Stafford loan people to find out what the rules and regs for putting off paying back your loans are. |
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MikeySaid

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: Torreon, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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in .... the .... PEACE CORPS!
You can get some debt forgiven, and it should be adios interest while you're in. Plus, it's a HUGELY positive note on a resume with a big fat network full of returned volunteers who are more than happy to hire one another, and it'll make you feel good.
If you speak Spanish, you'll likely (but not definitely) get placed in Latin America.
If that's not your thing, with an MA in TESOL... I figure you should be able to rake in at LEAST 25,000 pesos/month here in Mexico teaching at the university level. (Mind you, that's during the months you teach. I don't know if you can get salaried) |
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Mekyn
Joined: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Cuernavaca
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Can you teach ESL in the peace corps? I don't speak much Spanish, but I am working on learning some before I come and I am sure I can continue while I am there.
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Mekyn
Joined: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Cuernavaca
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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[quote="MO39 You'll have to pay them off eventually, but you can get a certain number (not sure what that number is, though) of payment deferrals for different reasons, one of them being not earning lots of money, as geaaronson has mentioned above. It would behoove you to check with the Stafford loan people to find out what the rules and regs for putting off paying back your loans are.[/quote]
That's what I thought. I figured I could get a deferral on my loans while I am gaining some teaching experience, but not making much money. After that I would apply for an ESL job in OR which pays well and work on paying off my loans. I think I should be able to do this for 9 mon a year and still teach abroad in the summers. I think I will be able to afford to volunteer during the summers.
So I think that I am really leaning toward Mexico for the experience and because (from what I have read on this forum) it sounds like a great place to live. It would also be nice to get away from all the rain in OR
So I guess now I am looking for all kinds of advice. Here are my questions:
Should I drive down or fly? Cost is about the same either way. Is it beneficial to own a car there?
Are there positions available to teach adults when one has very limited experience?
When is a good time to come?
Should I try to look for work before or after I arrive?
Should I look for housing before or after I arrive?
Where in Mexico do you recommend I start looking?
I am grateful for answers to all or any of these questions or any that I did not think of.
Thanks so much |
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MikeySaid

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: Torreon, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Mekyn wrote: |
:) Can you teach ESL in the peace corps? I don't speak much Spanish, but I am working on learning some before I come and I am sure I can continue while I am there. |
Yes, to university students and everything.
http://www.peacecorps.gov/index.cfm?shell=learn.whatvol.edu_youth.edu.univ
and with a Master's in TESOL it would seem you meet the educational requirements to do so.
The downside to the Peace Corps (or the upside) is that you could very well end up getting placed somewhere altogether different from Latin America. If you speak a foreign language, it is supposed to be more likely that you get placed where that language is spoken if there is a need for your service in that area.
Check out their site and see what you think. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: |
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MikeySaid wrote: |
The downside to the Peace Corps (or the upside) is that you could very well end up getting placed somewhere altogether different from Latin America. If you speak a foreign language, it is supposed to be more likely that you get placed where that language is spoken if there is a need for your service in that area.
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More years ago than I like to count I applied to the Peace Corps, with hopes of being assigned to Latin America to teach English. I was accepted to begin the training program but turned down this opportunity because they wanted to send me to southern India, a country I had no desire to live in. |
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Mekyn
Joined: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Cuernavaca
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:14 am Post subject: |
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I think I am really liking the idea of going into Peace Corps. I am sure that this experience would qualify me to get a great position even if I am not placed in a Latin American country. And it will help get rid of some of my debt. I am just about sold. But I will get some more advice before I make a final decision. Thanks for your help  |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Mekyn wrote: |
Should I drive down or fly? Cost is about the same either way. Is it beneficial to own a car there?
Are there positions available to teach adults when one has very limited experience?
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If you come to DF I would say no to the car. Public transportation is super cheap and gets you anywhere a lot faster. Parking can be a hassle (lots of cars n people, not a lot of space), as can cops (especially if you have US plates) and the time you will spend getting from place to place will really affect how you plan your day.
You will be more likely to get a job teaching adults than kids if you have limited experience. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: |
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So I think that I am really leaning toward Mexico for the experience and because (from what I have read on this forum) it sounds like a great place to live. It would also be nice to get away from all the rain in OR
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Rain you'll find throughout Latin America, though not the winter stuff you're used to in Oregon. Rainy season in Mexico and Central America is June to late October.
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Should I drive down or fly? Cost is about the same either way. Is it beneficial to own a car there? |
Leave the car behind. There are too many problems with insurance and permits to deal with.
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Are there positions available to teach adults when one has very limited experience? |
Yes, for the most part. Business English is a common theme in the large cities. You'll find yourself working a lot with high school and university aged students in big and small cities too.
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When is a good time to come? |
Follow the school year if you're gong that route, which means an arrival in Mexico for July as the fall school year starts in mid or late August. If teaching adults, then any tme is good, though Christmas and Easter periods are slow.
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Should I try to look for work before or after I arrive? |
You can start researching online and sending out resumes but most hiring in Mexico is done face to face.
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Should I look for housing before or after I arrive? |
Craig's list is good for this, but you'll pay 20-50% more for checking there. I always say it's best to check into a hotel or hostel and explore a week or two for housing.
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Where in Mexico do you recommend I start looking? |
Depends on what you want...culture, climate, fun, money, etc. Most jobs are to be found in the big cities, as are cultural events. If tranquility is what you seek, then look at small towns and villages. If it's the beach, the check the coasts (ooh I'm so samrt with that). Give us some help here to narrow it down.
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I am grateful for answers to all or any of these questions or any that I did not think of.
Thanks so much |
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Mekyn
Joined: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 30 Location: Cuernavaca
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Wow thank you for your help I was only wondering about where to look in Mexico because I wasn't sure if I might be limited to working in a city or if I might have a choice of where to go. I would love to live on the coast, but sometimes it's not possible. You gotta go where the jobs are. I have looked on craigslist a little but I had a feeling that the apartments there were more costly than what I might find being there. I have found apartments for around $300 to $500 a month. Is that expensive? I had a feeling that it was. What is the average cost for a studio or 1 bedroom? |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Mekyn wrote: |
Wow thank you for your help I was only wondering about where to look in Mexico because I wasn't sure if I might be limited to working in a city or if I might have a choice of where to go. I would love to live on the coast, but sometimes it's not possible. You gotta go where the jobs are. I have looked on craigslist a little but I had a feeling that the apartments there were more costly than what I might find being there. I have found apartments for around $300 to $500 a month. Is that expensive? I had a feeling that it was. What is the average cost for a studio or 1 bedroom? |
Depends on where you live (city wise) and where in that city you live (colonia wise). For DF that is average.
Usually there is little coastal work, and what there is the cost of living can be a killer in comparison to what you make. |
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