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RestiveBob
Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: Required Qualifications for HCT? |
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I'm thinking about applying to HCT as an EFL instructor. I have a bachelors degree (English), a TEFL certificate (Pass-A) and 4 years in the Middle East an an English teacher.
Do I have a chance, or do they really insist on an MA? |
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MrScaramanga
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adorabilly
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 430 Location: Ras Al Khaimah
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: |
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For a full time staff they demand the MA and the 3 years experience.
If you are living in the UAE as a local hire, you can get picked up as an adjunct (and work just as many hours, making almost as much as a full time w/out the benefits).
but they won't hire you from another country, fly you in and all of that with only a BA, a tefl cert and 4 years as an english teacher. |
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Arab Strap

Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 246 Location: under your bed
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Afra
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 389
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Are the pay and benefits now the same as HCT? Recently, they weren't. Salaries were much lower and teachers were sharing accommodation. Many left after the first year. |
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TruthHurtsButIstheBest
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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I believe that they are in need of teachers right now so you should be fine. I know lot of people in HCT system without a proper teaching qualification. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Afra wrote: |
Are the pay and benefits now the same as HCT? Recently, they weren't. Salaries were much lower and teachers were sharing accommodation. Many left after the first year. |
Really, Afra? Where do you get your intel, pray tell? I'm not challenging you, curious minds simply wanna know.
I know that there was an "erronious" and public email sent out stating the CERT faculty as well as some others weren't going to receive the last 15%, but I understand in a hurried follow-up email which wasn't so public quickly rescinded that. I've NEVER heard of doubling-up on accomodations, but I'll make my enquiries and be sure of where I stand.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Is the CERT program system-wide in all the parts of the UAE or is it only in Abu Dhabi and ??
I'm wondering if the housing shortage in AD caused them to start to double people up.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
Is the CERT program system-wide in all the parts of the UAE or is it only in Abu Dhabi and ??
CERT, generally, is kinda "attached" to the Abu Dhabi Men's College...even tho there's a wall between them. The CERT campus there has been well developed.
The CERT military program (CIL) is farmed out all the way to Fujairah.
I'm wondering if the housing shortage in AD caused them to start to double people up.
They rented out a block a couple of years ago obviously limiting their space availabilities, but I still haven't heard of doubling people up.
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Iamherebecause
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 427 Location: . . . such quantities of sand . . .
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: CERT |
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They certainly have CERT in Al Ain, so it's not just Abu Dhabi.
Now, what does it stand for? I have this vague idea that it's Centre for Excellence in Research and Training - surely that can't be right.... Everyone seems to agree that it's less, how shall I put it, prestigious to teach at CERT than HCT proper (after all you can teach there without an MA). Or is there a whole lot going on there which mere EFL teachers don't know about? |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: Re: CERT |
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Iamherebecause wrote: |
They certainly have CERT in Al Ain, so it's not just Abu Dhabi.
That's kinda what I tol' VS. I think that your talking about the CERT military program. I don't know of any CERT campus outside of AD.
Now, what does it stand for? I have this vague idea that it's Centre for Excellence in Research and Training - surely that can't be right....
No, it probably is. They've changed the meaning a couple of times over the past couple of years. Jes' change "Training" with "Teaching"...you get the idea.
Everyone seems to agree that it's less, how shall I put it, prestigious to teach at CERT than HCT proper (after all you can teach there without an MA). Or is there a whole lot going on there which mere EFL teachers don't know about?
CERT is what they call a cost-recovery program. So, with it, you be teaching military, police, etc. Not the most motivated of students...I mean, after all, can someone be very motivated when they're ordered to learn a language?
Check with your sources again, CERT teaches military in Al Ain, RAK, Dubai and Fujairah, but they use HCT facilities. I know too many of the ex-MLIers to be mistaken about dat!
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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As I recall from back when the CERT program was developed in about '93/'94, it was supposed to be for the students who were too low academically to be admitted to HCT (or UAEU)... to train them for low level clerical jobs... requiring just a bit of English... and the CERT suggested the certificate that they were to receive at the end.
But, since this was HCT with its love of acronyms, it probably did mean something pompous... although what relationship could it possible have to "excellence in research and training?" The "R" would have more accurately been "remedial."
It was some years later that it morphed into an idea to make money by offering training to companies and ministries.
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nstick13
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 104 Location: The Ohio State University
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Here's a question:
Does HCT hire year-round, or only leading up to the beginning of the school year?
Also, when would their school year start?
Arab, you'll have a PM. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:24 am Post subject: |
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The vast majority are hired in March-May to start in late August and then there will be some hiring for the second semester which starts... any minute now. (surely finished hiring by now)
It is rare for foreign hires between those times. Emergency needs are normally hired locally, adjunct with no benefits.
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adorabilly
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 430 Location: Ras Al Khaimah
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Hi Nstick.
HCT will hire year round, but the teachers only really have a 6 week window in each semester to come to the UAE. But as VS says, the majority are hired from march until july to come in the fall, and they hire as needed for the spring term.
So they may hire you in January, but tell you to come in August.
There seems to always be a "shortage" of teachers when the terms start, so they will rush to hire a few more teachers and get them in country and teaching within a month to 6 weeks of the start of the semester.
As for the question about the school year. That is a difficult one to say because of how and when Ramadan falls in the upcoming year. I have heard they may just have a normal start in the first week of september and run a Ramadan schedule for the back half of ramadan, or they may cancel school and push the start date back until Ramadan ends. (my contacts are vague on it all because at the moment they don't know themselves) |
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