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Osaka vs Tokyo - getting a job from UK

 
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olibeddall



Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Osaka vs Tokyo - getting a job from UK Reply with quote

I'm currently living in UK and planning to come to Japan in a couple of months. I have a couple of interviews which seem promising with some companies that recruit from overseas (Shane, and American Language School) and, if successful, will sort out my visa and set me up with a job before I go out.

However, I would rather go to Osaka/Kobe than Tokyo. I have not found a single place that will recruit from overseas and send you to Osaka - even if they have branches in Kansai you have to go to Tokyo for the first year.

So my question is - if I go out to Osaka in April off my own back, will I realistically be able to easily find an employer who will:

a) give me work
b) sponsor me for a visa
c) provide an apartment, or at least pay key-money

Or does anyone have any idea how else I might go about working in Osaka rather than the capital?

Many thanks
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AgentMulderUK



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think GEOS and ECC both place people in Osaka from the UK but they only interview in London once per year I think (not sure).

When I was in your position I found it quite hard to get companies to say they would place me in Tokyo. They often wanted to send me out in the sticks. A recruiter told me that Tokyo is the most commonly chosen place and so the hardest to secure, meaning Osaka shouldn't be so hard.

I would read up carefully the posts about Shane and Interac, etc before you consider them.

I saw some more that hire but of the ALT variety. Pretty sure most of those are plastered about as small ads on gaijin pot and the rest.

Personally I think the future isn't here.It's going to be China.

To answer your questions, yes possibly is the only truthful answer anyone can give you. I have done what you described twice. It's stressful, exciting and stressful (sic).
There are now too many teachers here and employers are getting more picky and will just take the easy option, which might not be you. Without knowing about your qualifications or experience, it's even harder to give you an answer. A degree is mandatory as I am sure you well know.

Do you qualify (age-wise) for a working holiday visa? That's easy-mode.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scour the ads.
Let potential employers in Osaka know when you will be here.
Recontact them after you arrive, if you can't already set up an interview.
Pound the pavement of Osaka when you arrive.
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olibeddall



Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a degree and a CELTA from International House. Gaba and Aeon to have schools in Osaka, but have a policy of placing you anywhere in Japan you may be needed, so no preferences allowed.

Glenski - thanks.. that's pretty much what I'd suspected. Given that I'd prefer to be in Osaka than Tokyo, despite having a good offer in Tokyo, this is what I'm leaning towards. My only concern is pounding pavements for 2-3 months finding nothing - I don't know how realistic it is to find a decent job within say a month.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olibeddall wrote:
My only concern is pounding pavements for 2-3 months finding nothing - I don't know how realistic it is to find a decent job within say a month.
If you come a couple of months from now, as you initially wrote, it will be late March. Come a few weeks earlier, as March itself is prime job hunting season. Plan ahead by contacting employers before you arrive, to let them know when you will be available for interviews.
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elkarlo



Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Posts: 240
Location: Maryland

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AgentMulderUK wrote:
I think GEOS and ECC both place people in Osaka from the UK but they only interview in London once per year I think (not sure).

When I was in your position I found it quite hard to get companies to say they would place me in Tokyo. They often wanted to send me out in the sticks. A recruiter told me that Tokyo is the most commonly chosen place and so the hardest to secure, meaning Osaka shouldn't be so hard.

I would read up carefully the posts about Shane and Interac, etc before you consider them.

I saw some more that hire but of the ALT variety. Pretty sure most of those are plastered about as small ads on gaijin pot and the rest.

Personally I think the future isn't here.It's going to be China.

To answer your questions, yes possibly is the only truthful answer anyone can give you. I have done what you described twice. It's stressful, exciting and stressful (sic).
There are now too many teachers here and employers are getting more picky and will just take the easy option, which might not be you. Without knowing about your qualifications or experience, it's even harder to give you an answer. A degree is mandatory as I am sure you well know.

Do you qualify (age-wise) for a working holiday visa? That's easy-mode.


I 100% agree that the future is China. I am going to Japan to finish my Japanese, hopefully I will have some decent Japanese in 2 years. After that I think I will see what I can do in China. Or Vietnam, a lot of development potential there.

A lot of people ahve stars in their eyes about Japan. I guess that's how they've still attracted people long after it was economically smart to learn Japanese.
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everybody wants to live overseas/learn languages for economic reasons- how about broadening of horizons, self improvement?
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olibeddall



Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski,

Thanks. Unfortunately the earliest I can come is the beginning of April, which I fear may be too late. This is really the crux of the issue.. if I come to the conclusion that it's a risky strategy, I'm tempted to accept the job with Saxon Court. I have til next week to decide Smile
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