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mehrlin26



Joined: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 52
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Life After Teaching Reply with quote

Good Morning or Good Afternoon or Good Evening Whichever It May Be,

I am a long time visitor, first time poster so I am not sure whether this post belongs here or in the Newbie forum. Bear with me.

I am currently in Central Europe in a job with a private agency. It is not a bad place and I am enjoying myself. However, I am thinking about the future. I don t mind teaching but I don t want to do it forever. The number at the end of my user-name is actually my age. I ve had a bit of a rough time these last four years and teaching English in foreign countries has been a way of meeting ends meet. So the question I m throwing out here is, Does this lead anywhere Question Is there life after teaching Question

I will give you an example of what I am talking about. Sometime ago, a relative of mine who is working in the civil service told me of a couple who once taught English in Japan who now work in the Canadian civil service in a Middle Eastern country which shall remain nameless here. Does anyone else know any stories like this Question People who start out teaching English and then using the experience to jump to other kinds of jobs Question ( Sorry about the excessive use of smilies: I can t find the question mark on this keyboard ).

Sorry, incidentally if this sounds insulting to career teachers. You do a wonderful job, God bless ya, but I still need to know.

Okay, I m done apologizing now. Let s hear from you.
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend (10 years experience and an MA) who got bored with teaching. He is now a stand up comedian in Turkey. Not too different from some teaching jobs .
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on your language skills in the language of your host country, you could go into translating--I know some people who have done it or thought about doing it. (I don't know any specifics--translating is a big, huge field about which I am largely ignorant...)

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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

or proof reading
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teacher training
Course development
Writer
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mehrlin26



Joined: 20 Feb 2004
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Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Course Development Reply with quote

Course development Question Could you elaborate on that Question

My thanks to everyone who has replied so far. Very Happy
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible to move into international business. I know a couple of people who started out as EFL teachers who both now hold management positions in Philip Morris - huge salaries, travelling the world etc.
Speaking fluent Turkish was crucial (and being European in Turkey helped).
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Dr.J



Joined: 09 May 2003
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Location: usually Japan

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not impossible to get into translating (I hope!), but you do need to be very proficient in your languages.

In terms of 'transferable skills', you can basically say; keeping deadlines, working with difficult people, working with large groups of people, planning short and long term. You can move into most fields of education. You can write, but then you can move to that from any job. You can move into tourism, especially if you know the language, so you can also move into language and jobs related to international affairs between your native and host country.

When changing careers there is often no choice but to start at the bottom. However, having experience as a teacher might make it a smoother/faster journey up the ladder.
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOme keep dreaming of becoming their own bosses based in a foreign host country. This is partciularly attractive to people in Asian countries.
As in my case, however, dreams may - never come true!
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Course Development Reply with quote

mehrlin26 wrote:
Course development Question Could you elaborate on that Question


Working for a large school and getting paid to develop courses. You develop lesson plans for teachers. I have developed two courses. It was quite interesting.
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been_there



Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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Location: 127.0.0.1

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was an ESOL teacher for about 7 years and now I'm the Academic Director of a University.

I'm also taking the Foreign Service exam in April, so I might just be the guy giving you your replacement passport when you get pickpocketed next year...... Very Happy
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Life After Teaching Reply with quote

mehrlin26 wrote:
So the question I m throwing out here is, Does this lead anywhere Question Is there life after teaching Question


Maybe the question you should ask is "Is there life before teaching?"
Having spent 13 years of my life drudging away in the corporate world, I have no desire to return any time soon... Twisted Evil
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slaqdog



Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Life.... Reply with quote

After 13 years as a teacher I have decided to stop and return to the UK. I know it will be tough but opportunities do exist. By the way at age 26 you can do whatever you set your heart on
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khmerhit



Joined: 31 May 2003
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Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE CANADIAN GOVT HAS A PROGRAM FOR UNDER THIRTIES THAT LEADS TO WORK IN IR (INTERNAT RELATIONS) DIPLOMACY CONFLICT RESOLUTION NGO EMPLOYMENT AND THE LIKE. ASSUMING YOU HAVE A DEGREE I SHOULD LOOK INTO IT IF I WERE YOU. HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE OSCE (ORG FOR SECURITY AND COOPERATION IN EUROPE). THEY AND OTHER ORGS HAVE OFFICES THAT STAFF CANADIANS OVERSEAS.
HUNDREDS OF THEM. I MET A GUY WHO SAID ONLY ONE THING COUNTS IN HIS BUSINESS (CONFLICT RESOLUTION IN SERBIA) AND THAT IS EXPERIENCE. ANYWAY, THIS PROGRAM OFFERS A FOOT IN THE DOOR. I WILL TRY TO LOOK IT UP AND REPORT BACK, AS I DONT KNOW ITS NAME.
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Joachim



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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Location: Brighton, UK

PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worry about this myself. It seems a common enough pattern amongst ESL teachers - finish University, get some shitty dead-end job to pay off debts, save and do the CELTA then leave your home country, as you're desperate for an adventure, then you kind of stagnate and just go from job to job, very rarely earning enough money to consider a future.

My idea is to keep travelling and working until I'm 30, by which time I will go home and get a real job!. WHat it will be I don't know, but we have time to decide, and it's better to be at the bottom of a ladder you want to climb, than halfway up one you don't.

Oh whatever!
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