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Ease of assimilation in Taiwan
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mgs2



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Ease of assimilation in Taiwan Reply with quote

I am currently teaching in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam and I have been surprised here how easy it is to find jobs here in HCMC. Many people tell me that they believe HCMC as one of the easiest cities in the world to find teaching jobs. I am interested to know how easy it is to quickly find work in Taiwan? Is a degree absolutely necessary? For example in Vietnam a degree is not at all necessary.
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enoch83



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't bother coming to taiwan if you dont have a degree. otherwise, in taipei its pretty easy to find a job teaching young learners. it bit more difficult teaching adults. but there are many jobs.
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mgs2



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See I'm only twenty years old and I have completed two of four years of my university degree. Can this count for something? Or will I still not be able to have any chance at Taiwan?

I'm interested in Taiwan as I have heard good things about it and understand you can earn good wages there.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
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citylightsruralcalm



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't really assimilate 100% in any foreign country. You might assimilate with a group of your friends but never with the overall culture. It's just the cosmic order.
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mgs2



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I meant by assimilation, is how easy is it to find work quickly in Taiwan? I make the comparison to Vietnam where it is very easy to quickly assimilate into work, likewise I'd appreciate any such advice on Taiwan.
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citylightsruralcalm



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can try using teh internets
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dangerousapple



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a good idea for you to come here. You won't be able to get a legal job, and will be stuck with both crappy part-time jobs and endless visa runs.
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773



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs2 wrote:
See I'm only twenty years old and I have completed two of four years of my university degree. Can this count for something?


Unfortunately, it doesn't count for anything unless you have an Associates Degree in your hand. If you have that plus a TEFL Certification, you can legally work in Taiwan.

I have heard that Vietnam is coming up as a very good place to teach English, and that wages are becoming comparable to those in Taiwan. Taiwan's wages have been stagnant for decades, and the cost of living has gone up. It is my understanding that wages are on the rise in 'Nam. If they are, you may be better off staying put (and maybe finishing your degree via distance?).
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steve_c



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

773 wrote:
It is my understanding that wages are on the rise in 'Nam. If they are, you may be better off staying put (and maybe finishing your degree via distance?).


I've read several times on this forum that distance degrees are not recognized here; the OP might want to research this carefully if s/he's determined to work legally in Taiwan.
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citylightsruralcalm



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the OP wants to work illegally, then it is his right to do so.
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mgs2



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does it mean whe you refer to me as the OP? I mean is it possible to come in on a tourist visa to find work?
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steve_c



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgs2 wrote:
What does it mean whe you refer to me as the OP?

OP=Original Poster (of this message thread).
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I mean is it possible to come in on a tourist visa to find work?

Yes, it's certainly possible; I think almost all teachers initially came to Taiwan on a tourist visa.

The concern is that, without a degree, as dangerousapple mentioned, "You won't be able to get a legal job, and will be stuck with both crappy part-time jobs and endless visa runs."

Of course, some have chosen this route, and the decision is yours to make.
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mgs2



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response. So to legally work in Taiwan you must have a degree? I mean if you don't have a degree is the availability of work severely limited? I ask, because in Vietnam for example, it is still easy to find work without a degree.
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mgs2



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your reply. It seems that getting work in Taiwan is just to difficult if possible at all, given that I don't have a degree. What countries can posters recommend as possible places to work without a degree? I can certainly name one, Vietnam.
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