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kev7161
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Location: Suzhou, China
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| Even though they have said you can't work at another school part time |
Actually, it says the OP can't work at another COLLEGE, so I'm wondering if a PT job at a language mill or something would be okay. Granted, LEGALLY, one can only work one job at a time, whichever their FEC states they are eligible to do. However, if I were taking the contract literally and I wanted to skirt the legalities of picking up some extra work, then I would think any other college was off limits but otherwise . . . the sky's the limit. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Apologies evasure, it was MS. Bean who asked the question to you, the last time there was such a topic, people talking about 10,000 RMB unis ... apology for mixing you two up
well we could go to any advertisement site, look at thousands of ads, never even seen such an advertisement, nor has anyone I know of or corresponded with knows of, uni jobs paying 10,000
One guy here was making that kind of money at a uni, posted her. a true rarity, before his uni outsourced his classes to a cheaper laowai
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| An example would be FTs I met from D-Telfort (sorry if the spelling isn�t clear) in Beijing, who (told me) were paid 8000rmb |
D-Telfort in Beijing, this is a uni that pays 10,000 RMB? For a regular laowai, no special certification, ain't no uni dumb enough to give you 10,000 RMB, but 4,500 for 16 hours, all bennies and nice housing, is a lot better then 8,000, 24 hours , doing nites and weekends at a language mill.
A lot better (16 hours plus 8 extra hours, 150/hour=9,000 per month)
Always, always bargain for at least an extra 500/month
4,800 tax threshold for laowais is consistent throughout China. If you go to the job forum, YMMV did a great job explaining taxes. search the thread
Many laowai, and just a great of % of Chinese teachers at unis, "illegally" take second jobs outside their uni. The standard form contract must say it is not allowed, it is part of the culture. If you choose to take a 2nd job, 99% of the time the FAO will not care, maybe even steer you to some jobs. If , by the rarest of chances, you get scolded by the school for this ( have known it to happen at one school .... the FAO offering you extra work is far more likely) there is no punishment. You say I'm sorry, I didn't know, and promise them it won't happen again. Seriously, this is the tuthfully expected response.
If you want to drop money living it up with an active nitelife though, get a second job, or get a teaching cert, or get a job with a foreign company |
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evaforsure
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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An example would be FTs I met from D-Telfort (sorry if the spelling isn�t clear) in Beijing, who (told me) were paid 8000rmb
arioch36
D-Telfort in Beijing, this is a uni that pays 10,000 RMB? |
Just a thought, but your inability to read may be an obstacle in your job search.. |
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arioch36
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Quote: Eva
An example would be FTs I met from D-Telfort (sorry if the spelling isn�t clear) in Beijing, who (told me) were paid 8000rmb
arioch36
D-Telfort in Beijing, this is a uni that pays 10,000 RMB? |
Just a thought, but your inability to read may be an obstacle in your job search.. |
Think you must be right , I must need a remedial class, because for the life of me, I just have not been able to read any of these job adverts you keep talking about for 10,000 RMB uni jobs
Eva
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| In a major city, the least, 10000 with some housing. |
Yep, most likely my lack of reading skills. Perhaps you could direct these job postings to others on the board, as no one else seems to have read them either |
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evaforsure
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| Think you must be right , I must need a remedial class, because for the life of me, I just have not been able to read any of these job adverts you keep talking about for 10,000 RMB uni jobs |
You really need to review before you post..I have not posted about uni jobs�
Below is the post I think you are referring to, but your hysterical reaction to the possibility of someone making a better salary, you have failed to note, I have already answered your question. I have offered my opinion as I KNOW I couldn�t live on a salary of 10k RMB per month in Beijing or Dalian and your vehement opposition to a simple opinion leads me to think you may have additional behavioral problems. I am truly sorry that you have taken offense to my opinion or if it has made you feel inadequate in any way.
This is the post where I think you THINK; well, I am not sure what you think to be honest. Your attacks seem to be based on events that not clear. I have only posted that I get emails with job announcements. I also stated I could not post these emails on this board and the reasons would be obvious to a clear thinking professional FT. I am afraid by evidence of your constant harping on imaginary post you have some personality quirks tht may also interfere with your development as a wage earner and a professional. In an effort of one up-men ship, you have constantly mis-quoted me and attributed information that has never been contained in my opinions. I therefore, refer you to the post below.
This post is from another thread...
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| I get at least two emails per week asking for teachers for English and English related courses at this pay level and more. Less then 10000, is not a salary that seriously can be considered as a sustainable paycheck and there fore is just a stop gap for those passing through, at least I hope no one really considers this as a formable future. I don�t think anyone would publish any of those job offers on a board where access to the opportunity is wide open, and instead if people have knowledge of these opportunities they will reserve the tip for friends and well qualified applicants. These paychecks will not be offered at Chinese Unis or language mills and the farther away a job seeker is from a major center of commerce, the less likely they will be exposed to this level of employment. |
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Itsme
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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Location: Houston, TX
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To cut through all the bull someone should find out what the state mandates for a foreign worker. Then we can figure out what all the "middle men" are cutting out of this amount.
I was always told to ask for 10,000 (from my Chinese teacher friends) so I assumed that my employer was taking a 4000 chunk from what I could possibly make.
I never made above 8000 per month but that was for teaching 3 hours per week.
I would assume that private schools have the ability to pay you much more since they can charge their students ridiculous amounts (Vivid English Club in Beijing charged something like 30,000 a month if I remember correctly) but they will never pay you that because English teachers are willing to work for much less. |
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