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bearcanada
Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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Location: Calgary, Canada
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ProfM's point above is what I was referring to in my earlier post. I have been told that the normal cutoff is age 60 but by completing an extra form called "Extending one's work period" or some such, it is possible to get a work permit up to age 65. But that cities now seem to be enforcing the 'no work permit after 65'. It is this latter point that I was questioning, and wanted to know if anyone has any personal real experience or knowledge to relate. Thanks.
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Jati
Joined: 11 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Jati, please explain how your comment is helpful. What useful information have you added here? |
I haven't added any useful information. I was asking a question. Some countries have a mandatory retirement age and it usually applies to foreigners also.
So, if China has a mandatory retirement age, then it would be useful information for people such as the OP, who was hinting around this issue.
Why are you so hostile to a simple question? |
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torrentstorm
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 20
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| fitzgud wrote: |
As one of the older teachers here in China, I have found there to be many positive elements to being a more mature individual. I was somewhat apprehensive on my arrival four years ago, not being a very experienced teacher, wondering just how out of date I was with current day youth culture. At the college where I was first employed my apprehensions were soon laid to rest. The vast majority of the students had never encountered a foreigner prior to my arrival; few had had a foreign teacher. My initial observations were that to display ones own personality and style was a revelation to the students, they were so used to the stereotype methods employed by their Chinese teachers. I found I was the youngest person at that institution, as few students or any of my co-workers had ever had time to be young; education had consumed their entire young lives. Use your life and work experience to encourage your students to ask, to become inquisitive as they realise the limits of their own general knowledge. They will flourish, you will see a sparkle in many an eye as a student grasps that he or she has learnt something new by asking, not merely by listening and repeating. For me it is a satisfying and also a rewarding job.
The social side of life depends on your chosen location, I am not a city lover, and therefore, smaller towns are my preference. This type of place does not always offer what the younger of our brethren may crave, for few of these smaller places offer the flashing lights of the nightlife and the club scene. There are benefits in being an older teacher in these locations, for where the younger feel they must be out chasing the fairer sex, us coffin-dodgers have the attention of the many middle aged widows, divorcees, or the just grateful. They will lavish you with samples of their cooking, sewing and mending, and all so that you will continue to provide them with sexual satisfaction. It is beneficial to establish an appointment system, therefore allowing one to enjoy the occasional beer, giving your tied back a rest. I live of a very average salary, off which I spend about 30% each month. The holidays are long and plentiful; the workload is light and enjoyable. I would commend it to all consciences and responsible individuals. |
Thank you, Fitzgud, for this info. It brings to mind some warm experiences I've had in other countries, and I am happy for you. You're lucky, but how does one go about obtaining something similar by sifting through the myriads of shifty recruiters that post offers daily? It seems to me Chinese Universities / Schools don't much care. They use these recruiters and send you the most laughable "contracts", something I am sure no red-blooded Chinese would accept, should the roles be reversed. Makes one think they'll take just about anyone.
I have received several offers, last year, to teach in different Universities, located in different provinces. Some I did not accept because I thought locations were too far off for an inexperienced individual who has never been there, and not being offered the possibility of getting picked up by the school (except once and I had to pay expenses for that), did seem to make this a daunting adventure. So I was thinking of sticking to the more "central areas". Second, and more importantly, the salaries offered ( and I am PhD. in English Philology), seem too low to make such a long trip worth taking. I mean, how would you justify paying 12 or 13 thousand CRMB to transfer yourself from your home country, only to get paid 5,000 CRMB per month? It would take you 2 months or more to make the money back, not counting on the employers offer to refund, which by the way, I am told not trust. The way China habitually treats foreigners - I've heard of some sad stories.
So I guess I am still looking for the possibility of obtaining something that will make this a bit more "worthwhile". Would you say, judging by your experience, that such is possible? Where should I look? Are there any good "guys" in your area who'd like to have a 55 y. o. Professor and treat him well like with you? (High School / Middle School students are ok too, besides young adults / older adults) |
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atomicneon
Joined: 02 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: ya fitzqurd |
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That's what I would like:)
In a warmer area and a 20' x 20' work shop.
Tell me more about it
Mike
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