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donb2222



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Dress code for teachers ? Reply with quote

Leaving for China soon to seek a job teaching, and I was wondering what clothes I should bring. I realize that it is probably very cheap to buy clothes in China, but I do need some clothes to get started.
So, what is the typical dress code for a teacher ?

Thanks !
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wulfrun



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

searching for "dress code", "clothes", etc. within this forum should bring up similar past discussions.

in general, no code: plenty of the notorious "guitar-toting slacker-teachers" turn up to class in shorts, t-shirts, hoodies, etc. so as a rule of thumb for a newbie, i'd say do yourself a favour and wear something with a collar, avoid jeans and sports shoes and the aforementioned stoner-wear. that can go some way to show others that you're there to do a job, not just to get drunk and chase girls. (unfortunately there's a stereotype of westerners using the developing world as a playground...)

chinese teachers' dress code is perhaps just a little more relaxed than teachers in the west; very conservative, and black sweaters are quite popular (north of shanghai at least).

have fun!


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kev7161



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy to buy clothes in China if you are somewhat thin and not too tall or big-footed. Otherwise it is certainly an adventure to track down that XXXXXXXXL t-shirt that would be a 3X back home!

Listen, I'm a big guy, I'll never deny that. But I see some locals here easily just as big as I and they are wearing big t-shirts and sports jerseys, pull over fleece sweatshirts, coats, etc. Do they have all these things hand made for them? I'm kind of doubting it. Anyone have a clue (in Suzhou) where they are finding their big-man clothes?
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platinum peyote



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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Location: Nanjing, near the bus stop

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kev7161 wrote:
Do they have all these things hand made for them? I'm kind of doubting it. Anyone have a clue (in Suzhou) where they are finding their big-man clothes?


The question is, would you want to wear some of the same clothes they are wearing? Chinese fashion is (even amongst the well-to-do), pretty horrific for the most part.

Not sure about Suzhou, but here in Nanjing by the main uni area, there are two stores that sell decent western-sized clothing, and some department stores have an H & M store, which has good clothes in western sizes, too.

But yeah, slim pickings indeed here.
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platinum peyote



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for dressing up smart for an ESL gig in China, what on earth for?

Ask yourself this: do your co-workers, principal/boss, students, cleaning lady etc treat you as a professional? Do you get the respect you feel that you deserve? Do you feel the pay and working conditions are great?

If you answered no to any of the above, I strongly recommend going to work dressed like 50 cent sans the bling.
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justaprofessional



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get fooled into working for one of the Chinese run joint-ventures you'll be expected to dress up.

Even as the paymasters in the main office wear what they want.

You're basically hired to be a face to prove to the parents that it's a foreign school to justify the foreign tuition rates.
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Hansen



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show the students some respect, even if they don't deserve it, by dressing appropriately. Dockers and a collared shirt are a good place to start when weather permits. In cold country, sweaters are the norm in winter.

Finding shoes that fit can be difficult. Razors made here are dull. I finally ran out of imported ones . Socks are also a problem. Good quality stuff can cost more here than in another country. Didn't used to be so.

I don't play the "clothes as a means of gaining respect" game, but I understand it. Almost certainly, you'll do better by dressing properly.
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bradley



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with wulfrun.

And I also think that if more teachers dressed appropriately that we would be more respected.
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Peter Wales



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clothes do not the teacher make.
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7969



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Wales wrote:
Clothes do not the teacher make.

you're right. but it can create a good illusion for less skilled teachers.

one thing. if you're a male teacher, and wear shorts to class, and you like to prop your legs up on a desk during the break between periods, make sure you've got your underwear on.
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evaforsure



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Clothes do not the teacher make.


but they do insure the best face for a promotion or an increase in salary...
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Dress Codes in Schools Reply with quote

"I realize that it is probably very cheap to buy clothes in China, but I do need some clothes to get started." -- Don B

Only cheap clothes are cheap in China. Name brand clothing such as you would buy in a department store in the West, which is the most likely to be sized and look the way you're used to, will cost 2-3 times what you'd pay at home. But if you're prepared to shop in the markets, or have your shirts and pants tailor made using easily wrinkled fabric (and hire and ayi to iron them), you could get by pretty cheaply. But, anyway, dress codes among teachers, if there is one you could dignify with the term, are pretty, um, casual.
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theincredibleegg



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smart casual works fine.
Spend some time on getting the right size and match colors properly.

A lot of foreigners in China can't dress: White sport socks with black dress pants; over-sized necks; over/under-sized tie; jacket that does go with the trousers; worn-out shoes etc.

Don't buy your stuff at parknshop either.

Any FT who can't wear either formal or smart-casual properly should go plain casual.
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not having a dig at anyone here and I'm not really for schools dictating a dress code that is overly strict (so don't jump on me) but everyone should try this.

Day one: Go to class wearing your usual attire, if it is casual or smart/casual.

Next day, wear decent enough trousers and shoes and a shirt and tie. (Weather permitting)

Whether you see yourself as a professional teacher or not, you will feel more professional on day two, guaranteed. Feeling professional inspires one to act professional. Everyone benefits.
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Itsme



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese teachers are often seen wearing the usual black dress pants with dress shoes and some sort of collared shirt.

It would be nice for you to at least try and look professional. They won't make a big deal out of it but it helps to look the part.

I would buy these things in your home country as I do not find the Chinese clothing (in China) very durable. I have had stuff break days after buying them and the colors fade really quickly after washing a few times.

Unless you go to a big mall where everything is 1000 RMB a piece. In that case, I still have clothes that look good as new!
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