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El_Mero_Mero



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All that means is an extra 50000 yen per week. Wouldn't my ALT job provide me with part of my evenings, as well as my weekends off? I'm sure that by private teaching and working late in a bar/nightclub I can either make it or get close to it.
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elkarlo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
Yes, how are you planning on making an extra �200,000 a month? Wedding minister? You won't make it from private students, that's for sure.


Well it starts with a P and ends with a rostitution.


Well from what I have garnered, unless your boss is a punk, you get 250k a month with Interac. Not too bad. If you add in a resonable amount from doing private tutoring, you may end up with maybe an extra 1mon a week.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El_Mero_Mero wrote:
All that means is an extra 50000 yen per week. Wouldn't my ALT job provide me with part of my evenings, as well as my weekends off? I'm sure that by private teaching and working late in a bar/nightclub I can either make it or get close to it.


Bearing in mind that it is illegal to work at a bar/nightclub on an Instructor or Specialist in Humanities visa, and the authorities do raid clubs where they know foreigners work from time to time to make sure everyone's visas are in order. If you are on a spouse visa then no restrictions of course.

Bar work typically pays around 900 yen an hour, so you will need quite a few private students as well as working a full shift at a bar several nights to get close to 50,000 yen- I hope you don't need too much sleep!

Good luck with that though- let us know how close to your goal you get.
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grapejuice



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

Previously, someone said that the salary was low, someone else said the 250 000 was standard etc....
I must say when all is considered, working for Interac is not a good deal at all...they don't pay for key money which amounts to about 200 000 yen just to get into an apt for your first month. (deposit, real estate fees and first month) Then you have utilities etc. You may not get your deposit back, and you won't get the fees back.

Interac doesn't pay you your salary the first month until the end of your second month of work. That's allot of good faith, too much, NOVA went down and left many teachers without salaries. However Interac is happy to loan you money and charge you interest for it! They have no regard for their employees in my opinion. So after traveling to Japan, paying your own ticket to get to Japan, setting YOURSELF up in an apt...you are really being paid 10 or 11 months for 12 months work... at an average salary. If you are serious about working in Japan you can find better deals out there...for sure. If you come for a 3rd world country, maybe it is worth it, otherwise, the conditions are not what they should be, so don't be loyal to them.

Get ready to work with NO heat in the winter in the classroom. I was teaching in a heavy winter coat and I was still cold. I am an area that is considered to be mild. I then caught a cold and missed a couple of days. It was my first month, so they said it was my probation period, so it is leave with no pay! Thanks for looking out for me. I did have medical insurance but I am out of pocket. It hurts when they don't pay you until the end of your second month.

I was placed in two schools, one week on, one week off. This rotation system, plus all the primary schools they send you off to, do not make you feel like part of any team. As a professional teacher, this is not a career move. Interac communicates mostly by email, which makes it cold and inconsiderate most of the time. You are forbidden to talk about work issues with the schools you work at, if you do, and get caught, interact will send you a "letter of concern". Then follow up with an email stating "You did so and so, do you know you were wrong? Do you agree? Tell us why you think so. What should we do about it?" As though you were the Junior High student! This happened to a fellow teacher. To make things even worse, they didn't have their facts right. Over all, the kids are fun, but it�s not enough to want to wake up in the morning.

If you have to go to a meeting in Hiroshima, bring your own tea/coffee because they won't even offer you a cup. They may tell you where the vending machine is but don't expect any courtesies. I spent two and a half days there, (interview, training) not even one beverage offered. Their lack of consideration follows through to the work environment.

I can go on. Maybe I will another day...

Simply, they are not a good company to work for...the local board of education should be wary of them. In my area, in a 4 month period, I am the third teacher to be put into the two schools. That says something doesn't it? The second day, I had a problem with a teacher, I should say a problem found me, Interac's solution, just try harder to make things right, but don't talk to anyone about the problem or else we'll right you up.

I'll give more details of location etc. once I've left and been paid.

Cheers.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

grapejuice wrote:

Get ready to work with NO heat in the winter in the classroom. I was teaching in a heavy winter coat and I was still cold. I am an area that is considered to be mild. I then caught a cold and missed a couple of days. It was my first month, so they said it was my probation period, so it is leave with no pay! Thanks for looking out for me. I did have medical insurance but I am out of pocket. It hurts when they don't pay you until the end of your second month.

I was placed in two schools, one week on, one week off. This rotation system, plus all the primary schools they send you off to, do not make you feel like part of any team. As a professional teacher, this is not a career move. Interac communicates mostly by email, which makes it cold and inconsiderate most of the time. You are forbidden to talk about work issues with the schools you work at, if you do, and get caught, interact will send you a "letter of concern". Then follow up with an email stating "You did so and so, do you know you were wrong? Do you agree? Tell us why you think so. What should we do about it?" As though you were the Junior High student! This happened to a fellow teacher. To make things even worse, they didn't have their facts right. Over all, the kids are fun, but it�s not enough to want to wake up in the morning.

If you have to go to a meeting in Hiroshima, bring your own tea/coffee because they won't even offer you a cup. They may tell you where the vending machine is but don't expect any courtesies. I spent two and a half days there, (interview, training) not even one beverage offered. Their lack of consideration follows through to the work environment.

I can go on. Maybe I will another day...

Simply, they are not a good company to work for...the local board of education should be wary of them. In my area, in a 4 month period, I am the third teacher to be put into the two schools. That says something doesn't it? The second day, I had a problem with a teacher, I should say a problem found me, Interac's solution, just try harder to make things right, but don't talk to anyone about the problem or else we'll right you up.

I'll give more details of location etc. once I've left and been paid.

Cheers.


while the cold classrooms might have been your experience, that is not interac but the BOE and school's fault/responsibility.

In my experience the classrooms have been very warm in winter!

The coffee thing is not unusual, I worked at a big eikaiwa co and you always had to buy your own stuff
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

grapejuice wrote:

Interac doesn't pay you your salary the first month until the end of your second month of work. That's allot of good faith, too much, NOVA went down and left many teachers without salaries.
Cheers.


This is absolutely standard in Japan- not just for Interac and Nova, not just for English teachers, but for pretty much every worker in every job in the country- it's just how the system works here. My husband works for a foreign finance company here in Tokyo and gets paid on the 25th of every month for the previous month's work.

There are some exceptions, but they're rare. It's not a reason not to work for a particular company as you will narrow your choices hugely if you make that an issue. Sure, the first couple of months are a struggle- that's why they all say to bring several thousand dollars worth of start-up money with you.
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ripslyme



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Re: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
grapejuice wrote:

Interac doesn't pay you your salary the first month until the end of your second month of work. That's allot of good faith, too much, NOVA went down and left many teachers without salaries.
Cheers.


This is absolutely standard in Japan- not just for Interac and Nova, not just for English teachers, but for pretty much every worker in every job in the country- it's just how the system works here. My husband works for a foreign finance company here in Tokyo and gets paid on the 25th of every month for the previous month's work.

There are some exceptions, but they're rare. It's not a reason not to work for a particular company as you will narrow your choices hugely if you make that an issue. Sure, the first couple of months are a struggle- that's why they all say to bring several thousand dollars worth of start-up money with you.


As a direct hire teacher we get paid in the month for the month. This was also the system when I worked as an ALT with the JET Program.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise that some jobs do pay earlier, but just saying that it isn't at all unusual to be paid in arrears in Japan- in fact it's normal. If Interac were the only company in Japan doing it then there might be cause for complaint.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also going to mention JET or JET-style direct hires (maybe Apsara was talking only about private rather than public employees). When I was a JET, my BOE was actually concerned that the two weeks' pay I received on their first payday after, yup, my two weeks in Japan, would not be enough to see me through to the next payday.

Ultimately, there is really no defending not paying dispatch AETs a bit quicker (as soon after and near to the BOE's actual direct payday as possible) - many don't and won't have the social networks and support that Japanese privately employed might have, plus it would be nice if the BOEs showed a little more appreciation generally...but then, dispatchers pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
I realise that some jobs do pay earlier, but just saying that it isn't at all unusual to be paid in arrears in Japan- in fact it's normal. If Interac were the only company in Japan doing it then there might be cause for complaint.

Yes, this is true. My J wife has told me this many times (normal in Japan)
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

grapejuice wrote:

If you have to go to a meeting in Hiroshima, bring your own tea/coffee because they won't even offer you a cup. They may tell you where the vending machine is but don't expect any courtesies. I spent two and a half days there, (interview, training) not even one beverage offered. Their lack of consideration follows through to the work environment.


Is it just me, or does anyone else think this isn't really something to complain about? I don't see how having to bring your own drinks to a meeting/training is a hardship/indictment of a company. They gave you break times, right? There is one company I work for that gives us free bottled tea at meetings, but that is the only one I can think of among all the companies I've worked for in Japan. You can't really expect things to work the same way here as in your home country.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you Apsara. While of course it would be nice if everyone offered you free tea or coffee, I don't think its something to complain about at all.
There are many other far more important things
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El_Mero_Mero



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Grapejuice, I appreciate your rant. That must be pretty bad if they had you working in the cold.

Alot of the stuff that goes down with these companies, is that the teachers are F.O>B. and too timid or scared to know what to do when something is "wrong".

Luckily, I will not be so fresh off the boat. I have a couple of friends in Japan already. Depending on the location they offer me, I may just provide them with the address of my friend and say that I'm staying there. Then, go on to find my own accomodation in my own time. The training manual says that besides all the required money you have to pay upfront, that 99% of the times, you don't get your deposit back.

It's too bad they wouldn't even have regular room temperature tea around, but you just have to adapt and find many silver linings.
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elkarlo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

ripslyme wrote:
Apsara wrote:
grapejuice wrote:

Interac doesn't pay you your salary the first month until the end of your second month of work. That's allot of good faith, too much, NOVA went down and left many teachers without salaries.
Cheers.


This is absolutely standard in Japan- not just for Interac and Nova, not just for English teachers, but for pretty much every worker in every job in the country- it's just how the system works here. My husband works for a foreign finance company here in Tokyo and gets paid on the 25th of every month for the previous month's work.

There are some exceptions, but they're rare. It's not a reason not to work for a particular company as you will narrow your choices hugely if you make that an issue. Sure, the first couple of months are a struggle- that's why they all say to bring several thousand dollars worth of start-up money with you.


As a direct hire teacher we get paid in the month for the month. This was also the system when I worked as an ALT with the JET Program.


How were you directly hired? That sounds like a sweet deal.
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ripslyme



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: About the Salary at Interac Reply with quote

elkarlo wrote:
How were you directly hired? That sounds like a sweet deal.


I answered an ad on ohayosensei for a private school that was looking for an English teacher.
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