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Dr.J

Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 304 Location: usually Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I find 'culturally sensitive' Japanese to be a little unsettling. Often we end up reversing traditional culture roles to try and accomodate each other - very bizarre. |
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Capergirl,
I may have mistaken your students for East Asians, but the word "culture sensitivity class" is a phrase that I do not expect my Chinese students to know except as something targeted at their foreign teacher.
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These students are Africans and they did attend cultural sensitivity seminars in the past to prepare them to come to North America. A lot of it revolves around business protocol, so I guess that's where the 'space' issue comes into play. I do recognize also that we NA'ers love our space and don't like strangers touching us, but I pointed out to my students that (a) we are not strangers, and (b) sitting in the chair next to someone is hardly an invasion of that someone's space. I think what I will do for tonight's class is wait for everyone to be seated and then I will take a seat right in the middle of them all.
Oh, and I do understand the whole "face" issue as I lived in Korea and Taiwan. It's something that I keep in mind when I have Asian students. |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Tory ad rubs Caribbean community the wrong way
By�BRIAN LAGHI
From Thursday's Globe and Mail
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Ottawa � The Conservative Party has landed in hot water with Canada's Caribbean community after preparing an attack ad against the Liberals characterized as amateurish and ''mocking'' of Barbadians.
The ad was the subject of internal party anger yesterday as a number of Conservative MPs said they were upset it was approved without their knowledge.
The radio ad attacks Prime Minister Paul Martin for basing subsidiaries of his former company, Canada Steamship Lines, in Barbados to take advantage of lower tax rates there. The ad, one of five, is expected to run in March in the run-up to an expected spring election.
"The tone of voice I thought was sort of mocking," said Basil Blackman, a past president of the National Council of Barbadian Associations of Canada. "I think if the Conservative Party has a problem, they should solve the problem within Canada rather than trying to bring in a third country that basically has nothing to do with the politics of Canada."
The ad is narrated by an individual with a deep Caribbean accent and includes the sound of steel drums in the background performing the song Yellow Bird. The man welcomes listeners to Barbados, "a carefree land of sun, sand and 2-per-cent corporate income tax" and refers to Paul Martin as "your Prime Minister, Mr. Paul."
Arnold August, publisher of Share, a newspaper with a focus on Toronto's black and Caribbean communities, said many Barbadians will be offended.
"I would not be happy with something like that," Mr. August said. "They'll feel insulted."
Several MPs said they should have been consulted before the ads were approved.
MP Greg Thompson said advertisements have damaged Conservatives in the past. He recalled an ad during the 1993 election that portrayed former prime minister Jean Chr�tien in an unflattering light by focusing on a facial defect.
"I think we need to put up a process where these are vetted," Mr. Thompson said. Another caucus member said MPs would have objected had they had the opportunity to do so.
The ads also became an issue in the Conservative leadership campaign, with members of the Belinda Stronach team blaming the former staff of ex-Canadian Alliance leader Stephen Harper, many of whom still hold positions in the party.
Stronach workers said the ads sound like they were created by amateurs.
A supporter of Mr. Harper, MP John Reynolds, said Mr. Harper didn't know about the ads either. He agreed that some of the ads could have been better produced, but admonished critics for lacking a sense of humour.
Liberals pounced on the ad, saying it was in the spirit of the old Reform party's infamous Quebec election commercials of 1997, when the faces of Quebec-based leaders had the letter X drawn through them.
"These guys really need sensitivity training," said Scott Brison, a former Tory MP who left for the Liberals after the PCs and the Canadian Alliance merged. "It's unacceptable for political parties to reinforce racial stereotypes."
Also yesterday, the Conservatives welcomed their newest member to the ranks when former Liberal MP John Bryden officially became a member of the party.
Mr. Bryden left the Liberals last week, saying he had lost confidence in the performance of Mr. Martin.
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Just a guy

Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 267 Location: Guangxi
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:54 am Post subject: |
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I�ll often let the students question me about �Anything� in the first class or two & I don�t mind any question they have the nerve to voice.
Many times the Chinese teachers who are present will tell the students;
�you can�t ask a foreigner that�.
When I get asked me age or if I�m married.
It happened in the very small town in Hunan &now in this kinda large city in Guangxi.
Personally, I like to know the age of people I associate with, it lets me know a little more about where their coming from & their life experiences & have no problem saying my age.
I even use it as part of a lessen, explaining how in the US, we use the actual DoB as our year marker, explaining DoB & how it is different than how China uses the year born, in China, I�m a year older than in the US for 8 months of the year.
Many of the students I�ve had will get close to me in out of class / lessen situations, I�ll even let them touch me & my hair if they want, to a certain extent. In the small town in Hunan, I was the first white person they ever saw in real life.
In class or during lessons, they give me space as Roger talks about.
On the busses, I�ll often be the last one with an empty seat next to me, unless a college student takes it as a chance to talk.
The up close Loud talking is more bothersome to me than being close physically. |
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Atlas

Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 662 Location: By-the-Sea PRC
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: |
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capergirl,
with all love,
maybe it's your toothpaste
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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My toothpaste...hadn't thought of that.  |
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Lynn

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 696 Location: in between
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Just a guy wrote: |
Personally, I like to know the age of people I associate with, it lets me know a little more about where their coming from & their life experiences & have no problem saying my age.
I even use it as part of a lessen, explaining how in the US, we use the actual DoB as our year marker, explaining DoB & how it is different than how China uses the year born, in China, I�m a year older than in the US for 8 months of the year.
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Good point, guy. This topic has come up before and I asked quite candidly, what exactly is impolite about asking one's age in the N.A. I never got a good answer. I also tell my students my age. Once I made them guess. The men guessed anywhere from 25-30. The women all agreed I was 27. I was 28, so they were pretty much all on target. We had a lot of fun with it. None of these students were Asian, though. They were all S.A. with a few E.Europeans.
I'm 29 now and still share my age. I wonder if I'll ever get to that point in my life where I don't want to share my age...hmm....I doubt it. My mother is 57 and she also sprinkles her sentences with her age. "I've been around for 57 years...or 'in my 57 yeas of living, I have never...'".
As for the marriage. I was single until I was 29 and when my teachers called me "Mrs." I would laugh and say, "hey, I'm not a Mrs.!" "oops! sorry, teacher". Again, I thought it was funny and took no offense at all. |
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saudade

Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 48 Location: Campinas, Brazil
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of kissing and hugging in Brazil. I never know when to hug, when to kiss, when to do the whole shoulder clasp hand shake, when to send a hug on the phone (versus a kiss), etc. Even in class, I always feel kind of stiff, because I'm not sure how to negotiate the boundaries (maybe I need a dias ). Blessedly, people are very warm and genuine, so mistakes are usually innocuous. But I know that Brazilians going to North America, especially women, can inadvertently send the wrong signals by doing things that are innocuous in Brazil - standing a little too close (by North American standards), making lots of eye contact, touching, even the traditional goodbye cheek kiss. I've never been to Africa, but perhaps they were overcompensating - I definitely think it's sweet that they gave you a whole one seat buffer zone, though
And I was also cracking up about "Personal Space McNally". I think he should be turned into a superhero or something.... |
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Last night, I waited for my students to sit down (at the other end of the table, far from where I usually sit) and then I went and sat right in the middle of them. Boy, did that ever mess them up. They were like, "What are you doing?" I told them that I could hear them better when I was sitting closer to them. Then the truth came out..."But teacher, we are very tired and we make lots of mistakes...if you sit over there, you can't hear all our mistakes." Ahhhhhhh.....  |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a bird!!!its a plane!!!ITSPersonal space MCNALLY!!!! |
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| khmerhit wrote: |
| It's a bird!!!its a plane!!!ITSPersonal space MCNALLY!!!! |
LMFAO!!!!  |
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